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> "... beyond GCSE level (I guess that's college in the US)" I'd say that's high-school for the US. Your attitude of go anywhere, do anything, may have worked

by amirmc 12y ago

> "... beyond GCSE level (I guess that's college in the US)" I'd say that's high-school for the US. Your attitude of go anywhere, do anything, may have worked very well for you but it's not actually possible for many people.

Nanzikambe 12y ago
> Your attitude of go anywhere, do anything, may have worked very well for you but it's not actually possible for many people. Why? I find it no less true today than a decade ago.
- dagw 12y ago
  Some people have to/want to care for/about people other than themselves.
  - Nanzikambe 12y ago
    Ok without getting defensive about the salient subtext, I see your point; but I think that argument is a non-starter unless you mean specifically in the context of physical care, which can't possibly apply to the cited number of young people. After all without the financial means and independence how can you care and provide for anyone let alone yourself? In my own context, sure - at least initially I had only myself to care about, so I won't argue that :)
  - beaner 12y ago
    Some people, sure. Enough to account for this trend? Doesn't seem like that'd be possible.
- cma 12y ago
  Macroeconomics. Millions of people didn't just suddenly get lazy the day the 2008 recession started.
pferde 12y ago
Why is it not possible? Not trying to disagree with you, just curious.
- vacri 12y ago
  Not everyone can easily handle the cultural change from moving, or have strong social ties to friends and family. If a person has kids, it's an order of magnitude more difficult to move. Some people are quite socially adaptable, some are well-prepared by their upbringing to have the skills to be comfortable in changing social situations. Not to say that it's easy for them, but easier - it's still quite a challenge. And again, doing something like this on an individual level is easy, because the status quo doesn't change overall. But on a demographic level, where are all the unemployed people going to move to? Another country? That other country also has unemployed people. Similarly, if you don't have skills in demand by employers, you're hard to hire, and hence hard to get more skills valued by employers - moving to a new location simply moves you to a new pool of unskilled labour.
  - Nanzikambe 12y ago
    I hadn't considered that - my own experience (obviously) colours my view, at least when younger I was eager to see new places, meet new challenges and new people. That did lead to losing touch with almost all my school-era friends at least initially - though in some ways it also taught me who were the best friends amongst them :) They're the ones you meet after a decade apart and can pretty much pick up where you left off.
- lrem 12y ago
  When you move yourself, you can essentially fit your stuff in a suitcase and go. On the other hand, if you move a few persons family...
  - watwut 12y ago
    Why was this downvoted?

by amirmc 12y ago

Nanzikambe 12y ago

> Your attitude of go anywhere, do anything, may have worked very well for you but it's not actually possible for many people. Why? I find it no less true today than a decade ago.

dagw 12y ago
Some people have to/want to care for/about people other than themselves.
- Nanzikambe 12y ago
  Ok without getting defensive about the salient subtext, I see your point; but I think that argument is a non-starter unless you mean specifically in the context of physical care, which can't possibly apply to the cited number of young people. After all without the financial means and independence how can you care and provide for anyone let alone yourself? In my own context, sure - at least initially I had only myself to care about, so I won't argue that :)
- beaner 12y ago
  Some people, sure. Enough to account for this trend? Doesn't seem like that'd be possible.
cma 12y ago
Macroeconomics. Millions of people didn't just suddenly get lazy the day the 2008 recession started.

pferde 12y ago

Why is it not possible? Not trying to disagree with you, just curious.

vacri 12y ago
Not everyone can easily handle the cultural change from moving, or have strong social ties to friends and family. If a person has kids, it's an order of magnitude more difficult to move. Some people are quite socially adaptable, some are well-prepared by their upbringing to have the skills to be comfortable in changing social situations. Not to say that it's easy for them, but easier - it's still quite a challenge. And again, doing something like this on an individual level is easy, because the status quo doesn't change overall. But on a demographic level, where are all the unemployed people going to move to? Another country? That other country also has unemployed people. Similarly, if you don't have skills in demand by employers, you're hard to hire, and hence hard to get more skills valued by employers - moving to a new location simply moves you to a new pool of unskilled labour.
- Nanzikambe 12y ago
  I hadn't considered that - my own experience (obviously) colours my view, at least when younger I was eager to see new places, meet new challenges and new people. That did lead to losing touch with almost all my school-era friends at least initially - though in some ways it also taught me who were the best friends amongst them :) They're the ones you meet after a decade apart and can pretty much pick up where you left off.
lrem 12y ago
When you move yourself, you can essentially fit your stuff in a suitcase and go. On the other hand, if you move a few persons family...
- watwut 12y ago
  Why was this downvoted?