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Unalone, you completely miss my point. You know what I am observing here? Let me make a flowchart: 1. Person sees _why is "dead" => 2. Person sees social proo

by sho 17y ago

Unalone, you completely miss my point. You know what I am observing here? Let me make a flowchart: 1. Person sees _why is "dead" => 2. Person sees social proof that _why is important and significant => 3. Person realises social requirement is to demonstrate conformity with (2), does so Needless to say this also follows: 4. Unalone sees external threat to group => 5. Unalone realises opportunity exists to demonstrate fealty to group by attacking externality => 6. Unalone posts 2,082 word screed to HN doing so Simple as that really. Brb, I have more to say.

unalone 17y ago
Yeah, the guy who already had _why's quote engraved on his iPod was totally conforming right now, rather than sharing a heartwarming anecdote about how he really liked one of the things listed here. 4. Unalone sees external threat to group => 5. Unalone realises opportunity exists to demonstrate fealty to group by attacking externality => 6. Unalone posts 2,082 word screed to HN doing so Really? I'm the person here who enjoys criticizing YC companies and Paul Graham because their reputations often get inflated. As for writing long screeds: This is hardly my first. I can't help it that I write as quickly as I talk. Unless I'm repeating myself and wasting words as I write, I figured length weren't no problem.
- sho 17y ago
  ... Ok, I can't respond anymore. I said what I thought. I still think that. I don't have the time or energy to argue with you. I should never have stepped into this puerile drama. If PG doesn't appreciate my presence on this message board he can ban me. It's his site, fair's fair. But I can't respond to you. I could spend hours writing the history of why I think what I do. I think I could convince you that my response was reasonable. But I just don't have time. The funny thing is, the social norm which keeps me responding to you here rather than just logging off and ignoring it is exactly the same rule _why has breached :D
  - unalone 17y ago
    It's not puerile drama. It's a debate. I was enjoying it, and I wished you'd have continued rather than resorting to calling me a pussy.
    - sho 17y ago
      It is puerile drama. _why enacted his attention seeking stunt, and what do you guys do? Shower him with attention. Deleting your blog is a pussy move and I have no qualms letting you know that fact. There's nothing to debate. This is teenage-level stuff, complete with teenage-level temper tantrums and teenage-level poetry. It warrants nothing but contempt. The funny thing is, you're trying to paint me as some kind of prick here, but you'll be exactly the same sooner or later. If you retain any honesty at all you'll call out bullshit as bullshit whenever you see it, and pretension as pretension likewise. The even funnier thing is, I really like _why and greatly appreciate his efforts. What I do not appreciate is this Michael Jackson-like circus of hangers on, all trying to outdo each other in post facto adoration. Fuck that shit, unalone.
      - unalone 17y ago
        Yeah, disappearing completely is attention-seeking. _why could not have left more quietly if he tried. No grand announcement, no farewell. He's gone. The fact that people exploded around him is entirely because a lot of people decided _why was worth an explosion of interest. Don't blame the guy for wanting to go. How is ending a blog a pussy move? I wrote it for a year. In May I decided I didn't need it anymore, so I told my blog readers I was ending it, gave them my email address, and a month later took it offline, saving the archives in downloadable format for people who wanted it. This is teenage-level stuff, complete with teenage-level temper tantrums and teenage-level poetry. I find this really funny, since you're the person who had a mini-tantrum and I'm the teenager who told you to quit it. It's also funny because my social scene includes teenage poets who've won national awards, so my concept of teenage poetry's a bit different from yours. If you retain any honesty at all you'll call out bullshit as bullshit whenever you see it, and pretension as pretension likewise. I don't really believe _why was pretentious. I think that your insulting the OP was bullshit, so I called it out. I also think I called you a cunt, so it's not like I was pulling punches. I just don't believe in unchecked aggression. It's hurtful and immature.

by sho 17y ago

unalone 17y ago

Yeah, the guy who already had _why's quote engraved on his iPod was totally conforming right now, rather than sharing a heartwarming anecdote about how he really liked one of the things listed here. 4. Unalone sees external threat to group => 5. Unalone realises opportunity exists to demonstrate fealty to group by attacking externality => 6. Unalone posts 2,082 word screed to HN doing so Really? I'm the person here who enjoys criticizing YC companies and Paul Graham because their reputations often get inflated. As for writing long screeds: This is hardly my first. I can't help it that I write as quickly as I talk. Unless I'm repeating myself and wasting words as I write, I figured length weren't no problem.

sho 17y ago
... Ok, I can't respond anymore. I said what I thought. I still think that. I don't have the time or energy to argue with you. I should never have stepped into this puerile drama. If PG doesn't appreciate my presence on this message board he can ban me. It's his site, fair's fair. But I can't respond to you. I could spend hours writing the history of why I think what I do. I think I could convince you that my response was reasonable. But I just don't have time. The funny thing is, the social norm which keeps me responding to you here rather than just logging off and ignoring it is exactly the same rule _why has breached :D
- unalone 17y ago
  It's not puerile drama. It's a debate. I was enjoying it, and I wished you'd have continued rather than resorting to calling me a pussy.
  - sho 17y ago
    It is puerile drama. _why enacted his attention seeking stunt, and what do you guys do? Shower him with attention. Deleting your blog is a pussy move and I have no qualms letting you know that fact. There's nothing to debate. This is teenage-level stuff, complete with teenage-level temper tantrums and teenage-level poetry. It warrants nothing but contempt. The funny thing is, you're trying to paint me as some kind of prick here, but you'll be exactly the same sooner or later. If you retain any honesty at all you'll call out bullshit as bullshit whenever you see it, and pretension as pretension likewise. The even funnier thing is, I really like _why and greatly appreciate his efforts. What I do not appreciate is this Michael Jackson-like circus of hangers on, all trying to outdo each other in post facto adoration. Fuck that shit, unalone.
    - unalone 17y ago
      Yeah, disappearing completely is attention-seeking. _why could not have left more quietly if he tried. No grand announcement, no farewell. He's gone. The fact that people exploded around him is entirely because a lot of people decided _why was worth an explosion of interest. Don't blame the guy for wanting to go. How is ending a blog a pussy move? I wrote it for a year. In May I decided I didn't need it anymore, so I told my blog readers I was ending it, gave them my email address, and a month later took it offline, saving the archives in downloadable format for people who wanted it. This is teenage-level stuff, complete with teenage-level temper tantrums and teenage-level poetry. I find this really funny, since you're the person who had a mini-tantrum and I'm the teenager who told you to quit it. It's also funny because my social scene includes teenage poets who've won national awards, so my concept of teenage poetry's a bit different from yours. If you retain any honesty at all you'll call out bullshit as bullshit whenever you see it, and pretension as pretension likewise. I don't really believe _why was pretentious. I think that your insulting the OP was bullshit, so I called it out. I also think I called you a cunt, so it's not like I was pulling punches. I just don't believe in unchecked aggression. It's hurtful and immature.