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> Because they don't consistently follow any rules whatsoever they're dangerous and the majority of them have an holier than thou attitude because they're not r
by toufka 12y ago
> Because they don't consistently follow any rules whatsoever they're dangerous and the majority of them have an holier than thou attitude because they're not ruining the environment. They're just ruining every driver and pedestrian's commute.
I think a more generous reading of the situation is that there is no generic norm for how cyclists should act. They don't actually know how to best act. They are not cars. They are not pedestrians. Laws themselves are both inconsistent and unnatural between various cities (precisely because there is no generic norm for cyclists...).
It's no so much that bikes should conform to rules which make no sense, but that the larger complex of cities as a whole should adapt to the fact that bikes have become part of their character. There needs to be predictability, certainly, but you're not going to get that by forcing bikes to act like vehicles that they are not.
- cwisecarver 12y agoI'd be perfectly fine with them having a set of rules they follow assuming the vast majority followed them and the ones that didn't were ticketed just as drivers or pedestrians would be.
- vetrom 12y agoYou know... I'd be fine with that as long as other vehicles also got regularly ticketed when they flagrantly violate the right-of-way of bicycles following road rules as defined by $JURISDICITON. The last time I saw that was....... never. If you are going to make an argument for the rule of law, it does have to be applied as a whole, not just to the groups you hate. If that sounds so unpalatable, perhaps the law needs to be changed. That is the case which this article is making.
- cwisecarver 12y agoOther vehicles not getting ticketed for violations has absolutely nothing to do with this. If LE isn't doing it's job, then it's not doing it's job regardless of the mode of transport. The article is about laws directed at cyclists not being logical. It rings a little hollow when the subject of the article can't follow the laws they already have. For whatever it's worth, I don't hate cyclists. I have a bike that I ride around neighborhood streets and through local parks for recreation. I don't ride it on highly-traveled roads or as a transportation device because I think I'd be impeding motorized vehicles and I'd really rather not be killed.
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