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Are you aware that by default Firefox will not be able to display any DRMed content, and that people will be given the choice to download a plug-in to do that j

by atopal 12y ago

Are you aware that by default Firefox will not be able to display any DRMed content, and that people will be given the choice to download a plug-in to do that just as they are given the choice to install the Flash plugin today? Can't those users just decide not to download the closed source plugin to view the DRMed content? What's the point of switching browsers?

edwintorok 12y ago
AFAIK the plugin interface for Flash is something generic, its not made for Flash only. This DRM plugin will have open-source code written specially to support DRM plugins, and thus Firefox/Mozilla has given up, and actually endorses the W3C EME, and endorses DRM. That is bad. I'd rather use a browser that doesn't endorse that. I think the EFF put it right https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/mozilla-and-drm https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/mozilla-and-drm "Baker may think that Mozilla cannot change the industry on its own (despite it having done so many years ago). Sadly, it changes the industry by accepting DRM."
yarrel 12y ago
Adding that capability removes any reason for web sites to use any of Firefox's other capabilities. Mozilla just told all its users to install IE, Chrome or Safari.
- atopal 12y ago
  I have no idea what other capabilities you are talking about. This is about DRM. What Firefox features would web sites use instead of DRM? To your second point: If you install IE or Chrome the DRM system will be part of your browser and you have something out of your control running on your system whether you want to watch DRMed content or not. With Firefox you can just keep using the web, and as long as you never want to watch any DRMed content, nothing changes for you. Only if you want to watch DRMed content will you be asked to download a plugin. As the cherry on top, Firefox will not leak identfiable data about your video usage to DRM or content providers. Unfortunately Mozilla alone can't stand against the power of Google, Apple, Mircrosoft, Amazon, Netflix and others united in their desire to push DRM through, but if you can't see the difference between Mozilla and the others, I don't think there is anything I can say to change your mind.

by atopal 12y ago

edwintorok 12y ago

AFAIK the plugin interface for Flash is something generic, its not made for Flash only. This DRM plugin will have open-source code written specially to support DRM plugins, and thus Firefox/Mozilla has given up, and actually endorses the W3C EME, and endorses DRM. That is bad. I'd rather use a browser that doesn't endorse that. I think the EFF put it right https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/mozilla-and-drm https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/mozilla-and-drm "Baker may think that Mozilla cannot change the industry on its own (despite it having done so many years ago). Sadly, it changes the industry by accepting DRM."

yarrel 12y ago

Adding that capability removes any reason for web sites to use any of Firefox's other capabilities. Mozilla just told all its users to install IE, Chrome or Safari.

atopal 12y ago
I have no idea what other capabilities you are talking about. This is about DRM. What Firefox features would web sites use instead of DRM? To your second point: If you install IE or Chrome the DRM system will be part of your browser and you have something out of your control running on your system whether you want to watch DRMed content or not. With Firefox you can just keep using the web, and as long as you never want to watch any DRMed content, nothing changes for you. Only if you want to watch DRMed content will you be asked to download a plugin. As the cherry on top, Firefox will not leak identfiable data about your video usage to DRM or content providers. Unfortunately Mozilla alone can't stand against the power of Google, Apple, Mircrosoft, Amazon, Netflix and others united in their desire to push DRM through, but if you can't see the difference between Mozilla and the others, I don't think there is anything I can say to change your mind.