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If you look around there is no "beautiful ERP" solution out there and the status quo is "you can make a very capable ERP or a "pretty" ERP but not both". I unde

If you look around there is no "beautiful ERP" solution out there and the status quo is "you can make a very capable ERP or a "pretty" ERP but not both". I understand the the difficulty of striking that balance but I think by applying the right kind of modularity to the app design (sort of like openERP but even more granular and forgiving) you can arrive at a solution which invites businesses of all-sizes but can grow with the company into very complex processes. There is HUGE opportunity in this market and I believe one big reason is that a new generation of userbase will expect and demand a better UX than any current offering. In fact, I suggest a great startup idea would be a to take the openerp codebase and wrap a new UI/UX around it starting with one vertical ("niche") market and working out from there. (i.e. "A beautiful ERP for medium-sized businesses focusing on your growing warehouse, sales and purchasing needs built on the solid foundation of openERP."). Not saying it would be easy, but just worthwhile. I have a feeling the Odoo rebranding points to an effort for a UI overhaul which acknowledges the opportunity of a great UX.

sharoonthomas 12y ago
> built on the solid foundation of openERP. Solid foundation is a joke. OpenERP is probably one of the shittiest pieces of code every written in Python. Take a look at their ORM code. And, of course they still use floating points for accounting [1]. [1] https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/master/addons/account/account_invoice.py#L1665 https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/master/addons/account/acco... Disclaimer: I work on the Tryton project
- hbbio 12y ago
  By curiosity I went to your website http://www.tryton.org/ http://www.tryton.org/ It doesn't even have a screenshot, and the main description does not tell clearly what it is. The only apparent link beside the menu bar is "Validate HTML". There is no link on the items such as "Accounting" in the description.
AndyNemmity 12y ago
SAP certainly has pieces of a "beautiful ERP" with Fiori. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbn9Q6P0cU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbn9Q6P0cU
kfk 12y ago
This is nonsense. An ERP has to run your business and operations. It has to be extremely reliable. Users couldn't care less about it's UX, in fact, the standard ERP solution, SAP, looks terrible, but it is also quite ok to use. In a big company an ERP error/fault can generate millions worth of damage, are you still thinking a prettier UI is a great start up idea for an ERP? Finally, you forget that IT departments in big companies are just a tad above trained monkeys and your software solution has to take that into account, in fact, it's the first piece of your service: it has to be easy to maintain. It's probably here where you want to focus on to compete...
- UVB-76 12y ago
  > This is nonsense. An ERP has to run your business and operations. It has to be extremely reliable. Users couldn't care less about it's UX [...] Indeed. When a person's livelihood depends on using your software, they have a pretty strong incentive to learn how to use it effectively, and put up with all its imperfections. I'm sure some employees actually revel in how backwards and difficult to use their business software is. If everything were automated, effortless, and required no expertise, they'd be out of a job.
- toomuchtodo 12y ago
  > Finally, you forget that IT departments in big companies are just a tad above trained monkeys and your software solution has to take that into account This generalization is the equivalent of "Every SF startup engineer is a high schooler who happens to know some javascript". Think before painting with a broad brush, especially when its that department that might have to give signoff for your product.
alien3d 12y ago
There's are diff between erp and mrp.Much focus on material resource planning. I do property erp software and customize for government.It really really complicate with all of layer of procedure . Taking other code base without experience can be painful and complicated. If any people here dealing with complicated procedurelayer.please share your experience.

sharoonthomas 12y ago

> built on the solid foundation of openERP. Solid foundation is a joke. OpenERP is probably one of the shittiest pieces of code every written in Python. Take a look at their ORM code. And, of course they still use floating points for accounting [1]. [1] https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/master/addons/account/account_invoice.py#L1665 https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/master/addons/account/acco... Disclaimer: I work on the Tryton project

hbbio 12y ago
By curiosity I went to your website http://www.tryton.org/ http://www.tryton.org/ It doesn't even have a screenshot, and the main description does not tell clearly what it is. The only apparent link beside the menu bar is "Validate HTML". There is no link on the items such as "Accounting" in the description.

AndyNemmity 12y ago

SAP certainly has pieces of a "beautiful ERP" with Fiori. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbn9Q6P0cU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbn9Q6P0cU

kfk 12y ago

This is nonsense. An ERP has to run your business and operations. It has to be extremely reliable. Users couldn't care less about it's UX, in fact, the standard ERP solution, SAP, looks terrible, but it is also quite ok to use. In a big company an ERP error/fault can generate millions worth of damage, are you still thinking a prettier UI is a great start up idea for an ERP? Finally, you forget that IT departments in big companies are just a tad above trained monkeys and your software solution has to take that into account, in fact, it's the first piece of your service: it has to be easy to maintain. It's probably here where you want to focus on to compete...

UVB-76 12y ago
> This is nonsense. An ERP has to run your business and operations. It has to be extremely reliable. Users couldn't care less about it's UX [...] Indeed. When a person's livelihood depends on using your software, they have a pretty strong incentive to learn how to use it effectively, and put up with all its imperfections. I'm sure some employees actually revel in how backwards and difficult to use their business software is. If everything were automated, effortless, and required no expertise, they'd be out of a job.
toomuchtodo 12y ago
> Finally, you forget that IT departments in big companies are just a tad above trained monkeys and your software solution has to take that into account This generalization is the equivalent of "Every SF startup engineer is a high schooler who happens to know some javascript". Think before painting with a broad brush, especially when its that department that might have to give signoff for your product.

alien3d 12y ago

There's are diff between erp and mrp.Much focus on material resource planning. I do property erp software and customize for government.It really really complicate with all of layer of procedure . Taking other code base without experience can be painful and complicated. If any people here dealing with complicated procedurelayer.please share your experience.