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Burn the library down, because you were offended by a book. Card catalogs should be illegal. Let's dig up Melvil Dewey and desecrate his corpse. The fundamen
by VikingCoder 12y ago
Burn the library down, because you were offended by a book.
Card catalogs should be illegal.
Let's dig up Melvil Dewey and desecrate his corpse.
The fundamental question is: is it harmful to run a word index algorithm on the internet's data?
You're saying YES.
Don't you realize how backwards and harmful that is?
- gress 12y agoWhat have these straw men got to do with anything other than that you don't like the idea of Google having any responsibility for the negative consequences of their service?
- VikingCoder 12y agoAm I correct in saying that you think it is harmful to run a word index algorithm on the internet's data?
- gress 12y agoYou keep asking that and I've already answered. No. The harm is in the information you publish about people. Using a word index algorithm in the process is irrelevant to that.
- VikingCoder 12y agoGoogle didn't publish this information. Google IS a word index algorithm, which ECHOES the information. If you don't want something to show up in the index, then stop it from being published. That's why we keep asking: I assert, "Google IS a word index algorithm on the internet's data. Is it be harmful to run a word index algorithm on the world's data?" To which you say "NO." Then, somehow, you're still asserting that Google did harm. Google Search is JUST a word index algorithm. That is the entirety of what it is. So, by your argument, it is NOT harmful to run Google.
- gress 12y agoYou seem to be saying that there is no Google corporation, no Larry Page or Sergei Brin, and no Google Offices or employees, or executives. That is what it means to assert that google is just an algorithm.
- VikingCoder 12y ago"Is it be harmful to run a word index algorithm on the world's data?" That question COULD NOT BE MORE CLEAR. It doesn't matter if Larry Page and Sergey Brin form a corporation named Google to do it, or not. And yet, you say "No, it's not harmful" when we ask you, but then you say, "Yes, it is harmful, if Larry and Sergey make a company called Google to do it." YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.
- gress 12y agoI am not contradicting myself. You are simply repeating a straw man argument. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man Note in particular point 2 of the structure: Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. Google is much more than a word index, so claiming that this is just about word indexes is a misrepresentation. I'm sorry you are making this error.
- VikingCoder 12y agoAt what point does it stop being a word index, which you assert is harmless... And start being "much more," which you assert is harmful. The ONLY WAY to not have a contradiction is to have a clear line between the two. Or else you're stuck with "I'll know it when I see it" which is no way to write laws. So, please educate us, at what point does it become harmful?
- gress 12y agoAny time you publish information on the web you need to consider whether you are defaming someone. This applies whether a word index is part of your publishing process or not. These laws aren't written about 'word indexes' they are written about the rights people have to publish information about other people. That is what is at issue.