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> but I’d much rather replace those with even higher level system tests through Capybara or similar I've been doing this for years. It's been working out very

• twic 12y ago
  Oh cripes, me too! And i'm glad that there's a genuine plurality of views. Test scope has been talked about for years, but almost always in the form of sermons by fervent believers in unit testing, castigating those who dare to lean more heavily on system and integration tests for their dangerous heresy. Occasionally, these sermons admit the existence of a "testing pyramid", but take note of the necessary shape of that edifice: it's unit tests, but with a decorative cap of other kinds of test inexorably dwindling in volume as they reach higher levels. I'm not interested in this all this alleged pyramid science. Talk to me about testing towers, testing dolmens, then we can have a genuine conversation.