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> "The fish oil capsules I don't think will stand up to a critical review. They simply don't do anything for you," he said. "The people should know that it does

by zxcdw 12y ago

> "The fish oil capsules I don't think will stand up to a critical review. They simply don't do anything for you," he said. "The people should know that it doesn't help to prevent heart disease." This struck me. For example examine.com has[0] quite good coverage when it comes to supplements like fish oil, and not surprisingly their round-up shows multitude of benefits from fish oil. Okay, perhaps the phrasing was altered to provoke and mislead the reader, but still. 0: http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/ http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/

spikels 12y ago
You might want to look at the examine.com page more carefully. The only result that is both significant (i.e. large effect) and robust (i.e. agreement in lots of double blind studies) is a reduction of triglycerides. And that is an indirect impact on health outcomes at best. The rest of the studies were either for sub-groups (depressed people) or were insignificant, mixed direction and/or not robust.
- bdcs 12y ago
  The National Library of Medicine by the NIH makes it look pretty good. Them saying "possibly effective for..." is quite the endorsement: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/993.html http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/993.html
- aaxe 12y ago
  Examine.com does not recommend fish oil as a MUST supplement.
a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
Fish oil has an effect but it is probably quite harmful. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml N-3 fatty acids interfere with oxidative metabolism and promote cancer. In the short term N-3 oils can appear to help various problems like inflammation because they suppress the immune system. In the long term that's obviously bad.
- aaxe 12y ago
  Ray Peat is contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
Cowicide 12y ago
I've been downvoted into oblivion in this thread, so the forum system might hide this post from you. But, I was just going to chime in that I agree with you. Also, I think more people need to look at what the prestigious Mayo clinic has to say about the positive benefits of fish oil as well: http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil-alpha-linolenic-acid/evidence/hrb-20059372 http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/omega-3-fatty-ac...

by zxcdw 12y ago

spikels 12y ago

You might want to look at the examine.com page more carefully. The only result that is both significant (i.e. large effect) and robust (i.e. agreement in lots of double blind studies) is a reduction of triglycerides. And that is an indirect impact on health outcomes at best. The rest of the studies were either for sub-groups (depressed people) or were insignificant, mixed direction and/or not robust.

bdcs 12y ago
The National Library of Medicine by the NIH makes it look pretty good. Them saying "possibly effective for..." is quite the endorsement: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/993.html http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/993.html
aaxe 12y ago
Examine.com does not recommend fish oil as a MUST supplement.

a8da6b0c91d 12y ago

Fish oil has an effect but it is probably quite harmful. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml N-3 fatty acids interfere with oxidative metabolism and promote cancer. In the short term N-3 oils can appear to help various problems like inflammation because they suppress the immune system. In the long term that's obviously bad.

aaxe 12y ago
Ray Peat is contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

Cowicide 12y ago

I've been downvoted into oblivion in this thread, so the forum system might hide this post from you. But, I was just going to chime in that I agree with you. Also, I think more people need to look at what the prestigious Mayo clinic has to say about the positive benefits of fish oil as well: http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil-alpha-linolenic-acid/evidence/hrb-20059372 http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/omega-3-fatty-ac...