Loughla, I am with you about freedom, etc... But look at what you said "It doesn't take white culture to fix 'ghetto people'".. This means your presupposition

Loughla, I am with you about freedom, etc... But look at what you said "It doesn't take white culture to fix 'ghetto people'".. This means your presupposition is that ghettos are predominantly non white, which means that you subconsciously think white folks don't have that problem, which in turns contradicts what you said about not needing white culture to fix ghetto people.. Which is not what I said. It says a lot: If you can do feature exctraction on a social problem that easily, it means something is really screwd. I also think there's an impedance mismatch here between what you say and what I understand, and vice versa. I agree on the fact that people living in ghettos must be empowered, and a way to do that in my mind was to get their children a better education, easing the financial burden on the parents, and shielding the children from their toxic environment. If I went overboard, it's because it's too important to let ourselves dwell on rhetorics. My reasoning was: We may not be able to help the parents (they had their lives), but the children still have a chance. The parents played their turn, now it's the children's turn at life. But I agree on your point about draining the youth from these communities. I haven't seen it that way. { I'm saying that the way to fix the issues associated with these areas isn't a white knight swooping in to save the poor colored kids; that.does.not.work. It's for these areas to be empowered through community investment to fix it for themselves. } Which would be easier if they had a better education, education which would be easier to obtain if they didn't have to hustle to eat, or have to choose which child to send to school, or chose if the child is going to eat or get an education. >Do you know the best way to empower a community? Education >focused INSIDE of it. I'd say education no matter where. As I said, my rationale is that children are too precious to waste on a social experiment of community stuff. They need education and be able to be children. { And for Melville: I'm not certain that his upbringing is really all that important. Your argument here is really, really weak (and is an outstanding example of Ad Hominem; what does it matter where he's from?). You're arguing that, unless you are from a ghetto, you're not allowed to have an opinion on them. Where did you grow up? } I didn't attack him, Loughla. I even agree with him. And I didn't even say you're not allowed to have an opinion unless you live there (I didn't say that). But the issue at hand has nothing to do with opinion. Living in a ghetto just sucks and nobody needs research or a PhD to know that. It's just reality, man. Not "perception" and not "endoctrination". It's a toxic environment that would influence the most immune systems. And I didn't say it needs a "white knight", I didn't even mention a white dude saving the day (you did). You assumed that when I said "billionaire", the guy would be white.. Which again, says a frigging lot about the reality you are trying to polish. In other words: you are contradicting yourself because, deep down, in your guts, you don't feel that way about the issue. Mentalist out (I'm not half as good looking as he is. Oh, well..).