I think the parent was trying to say that, in his experience, these people were not good programmers to begin with. So it's not that best practices and softwar

I think the parent was trying to say that, in his experience, these people were not good programmers to begin with. So it's not that best practices and software engineering is to blame, it's about poor and/or inexperienced programmers (we all know there are a lot of them) attempting to apply principles that they don't understand, and the result is bad code. You also see to have completely skipped the middle of the parent's comment.