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What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST http://rubbingal

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

danray 12y ago
Be careful -- practically speaking, using Comcast's and TWC's names/logos is more likely to attract their attention early, and will give their lawyers a stronger argument (against Github or third-party sites) to have it taken down.
- aroch 12y ago
  will give their lawyers a stronger argument No it won't. Using the name and marks of the FCC to dicuss policy and actions by the FCC is clearly fair use.
  - danray 12y ago
    I've edited to be clearer -- I'm referring to the use of Comcast's (and Time Warner's) logos, not the FCC's. I agree that there are fair use arguments, which is why I said "practically": hosts take down fair-use content every day. A subset of that is eventually restored, but only after the parties have argued it out (frequently through their lawyers).
orthecreedence 12y ago
I think this gets the point across more clearly, and I'd be much more likely to install this on my sites. The fact that you're immediately giving at least some context would make me a lot less confused as a user, and the site loading in the background makes it obvious that I'm in the right place to begin with. While you guys obviously have a message to get out (a great message), you may want to consider adding a link someone could click to get rid of the widget and load the site immediately. Imagine that you saw four sites with the widget, then emailed your congresspeople, and now you have to keep dealing with them all throughout the day even if you already took action...it'd be annoying. Thanks for all the work on this!
dpe82 12y ago
How about something that much more closely resembles slow page loading? Pop an explainer / action callout modal while the page slowly reveals itself, something like this: http://jsfiddle.net/dpemmons/3zSSk/3/embedded/result/ http://jsfiddle.net/dpemmons/3zSSk/3/embedded/result/
dpe82 12y ago
Also, let's not confuse people. The target is the FCC. We want people to contact FCC and complain about their (proposed) policies. If you're going to involve brands and logos, use theirs.

danray 12y ago

Be careful -- practically speaking, using Comcast's and TWC's names/logos is more likely to attract their attention early, and will give their lawyers a stronger argument (against Github or third-party sites) to have it taken down.

aroch 12y ago
will give their lawyers a stronger argument No it won't. Using the name and marks of the FCC to dicuss policy and actions by the FCC is clearly fair use.
- danray 12y ago
  I've edited to be clearer -- I'm referring to the use of Comcast's (and Time Warner's) logos, not the FCC's. I agree that there are fair use arguments, which is why I said "practically": hosts take down fair-use content every day. A subset of that is eventually restored, but only after the parties have argued it out (frequently through their lawyers).

orthecreedence 12y ago

I think this gets the point across more clearly, and I'd be much more likely to install this on my sites. The fact that you're immediately giving at least some context would make me a lot less confused as a user, and the site loading in the background makes it obvious that I'm in the right place to begin with. While you guys obviously have a message to get out (a great message), you may want to consider adding a link someone could click to get rid of the widget and load the site immediately. Imagine that you saw four sites with the widget, then emailed your congresspeople, and now you have to keep dealing with them all throughout the day even if you already took action...it'd be annoying. Thanks for all the work on this!

dpe82 12y ago

How about something that much more closely resembles slow page loading? Pop an explainer / action callout modal while the page slowly reveals itself, something like this: http://jsfiddle.net/dpemmons/3zSSk/3/embedded/result/ http://jsfiddle.net/dpemmons/3zSSk/3/embedded/result/

dpe82 12y ago

Also, let's not confuse people. The target is the FCC. We want people to contact FCC and complain about their (proposed) policies. If you're going to involve brands and logos, use theirs.