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I moved away from C# and .NET about 4 years ago, and use all those things too. The recent developments are great, but I view them more as a cool glass of water

I moved away from C# and .NET about 4 years ago, and use all those things too. The recent developments are great, but I view them more as a cool glass of water for people in a hot place (not hell, far from it). I don't like how .NET as a platform/ecosystem/community lags on certain things that are almost taken for granted in other areas, like deployment tools and package managers. Then again, when I worked with .NET those things were my responsibility so I guess their lack affected me more than many .NET devs.

UK-AL 12y ago
Well the good news is that those things are standard now.
- troygoode 12y ago
  Yes, those are standard now because they're "old" in the rest of the industry. It remains to be seen if newer tech that is starting to become standard outside of the Microsoft ecosystem today (containers, for example) will be integrated fast enough to matter.
  - UK-AL 12y ago
    Containers? You mean like MEF(Included in .net framework) or Unity? .Net has always had containers like that.
    - Guillaume86 12y ago
      No he mean ressources isolation containers (tiny VMs)
      - UK-AL 12y ago
        I don't know how they would do that with windows, since it requires features in the linux kernel.
        Aaronontheweb 12y ago
        Starting with Windows 8, Hyper-V (Microsoft's virtualization platform) is built into the OS - and one of the goals with it was to be able to virtualize different environments invisibly to the end-user. The Hyper-V team have also been actively committing to the Linux kernel for many years now, and I'm happily running a 6-node Cassandra cluster on my Windows 8 dev machine right now using Hyper-V :) So it's not there yet, but ground has been broken.
  - troygoode 12y ago
    I mean containers like docker. https://www.docker.io/ https://www.docker.io/
    - PallarelCoedr 12y ago
      It's 'Drawbridge'[0,1] in the windows world and it is on it's way apparently. You can run mono in linux containers which means you can run this stuff too. [0] http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-offer-its-drawbridge-virtualization-technology-on-top-of-its-windows-azure-cloud-7000009774/ http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-offer-its-drawbridge-virtu... [1] https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/drawbridge/ https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/drawbridge/
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UK-AL 12y ago

Well the good news is that those things are standard now.

troygoode 12y ago
Yes, those are standard now because they're "old" in the rest of the industry. It remains to be seen if newer tech that is starting to become standard outside of the Microsoft ecosystem today (containers, for example) will be integrated fast enough to matter.
- UK-AL 12y ago
  Containers? You mean like MEF(Included in .net framework) or Unity? .Net has always had containers like that.
  - Guillaume86 12y ago
    No he mean ressources isolation containers (tiny VMs)
    - UK-AL 12y ago
      I don't know how they would do that with windows, since it requires features in the linux kernel.
      - Aaronontheweb 12y ago
        Starting with Windows 8, Hyper-V (Microsoft's virtualization platform) is built into the OS - and one of the goals with it was to be able to virtualize different environments invisibly to the end-user. The Hyper-V team have also been actively committing to the Linux kernel for many years now, and I'm happily running a 6-node Cassandra cluster on my Windows 8 dev machine right now using Hyper-V :) So it's not there yet, but ground has been broken.
- troygoode 12y ago
  I mean containers like docker. https://www.docker.io/ https://www.docker.io/
  - PallarelCoedr 12y ago
    It's 'Drawbridge'[0,1] in the windows world and it is on it's way apparently. You can run mono in linux containers which means you can run this stuff too. [0] http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-offer-its-drawbridge-virtualization-technology-on-top-of-its-windows-azure-cloud-7000009774/ http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-to-offer-its-drawbridge-virtu... [1] https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/drawbridge/ https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/drawbridge/
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