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As a sidenote, France happend to have exactly this teaching programs in elementary schools in the 80s. We had a language called "LOGO" running on thomson mo5. I
by bsaul 13y ago
As a sidenote, France happend to have exactly this teaching programs in elementary schools in the 80s. We had a language called "LOGO" running on thomson mo5. Instructions where "move the tortoise 20 front", then "rotate tortoise 90°", etc, and we would do pretty graphics on the screen and be happy.
Or at least that's how i remember it. A friend of mine who's now an history researcher told me recently how that thing disgusted him from computers for 20 years.
- wallflower 13y ago> A friend of mine who's now an history researcher told me how that thing digusted him from computers for 20 years. Can you please elaborate? Was it the infantilism? Or something else? Does your friend pursue coding now? Logo and other "beginner" languages are more about introductions to using computers to create, not about teaching programming.
- xmonkee 13y agoCan be a couple of things 1. It intimidated him. Happened to some friends of mine. 2. He realized history is better than writing procedural code . Should have learnt haskell
- fredgrott 13y agono opposite..lookup learning theory.. MIT, etc LOGO was crated as part of the new learning theory explorations at MIT and else where during the 1980s.. But in your friend defense Logo was designed for kids at a certain mental age...obviously your friend was beyond that age when exposed to LOGO
- bsaul 13y agoOh, no, i wasn't probably clear enough. We have the same age, et both did that course at the same age. We just happend to have a very different opinion on that period.
- bsaul 13y agoI think that teaching programming doesn't necesseraly make you enjoy programming. Just like with any topic, the first step is to make people sufficently interested in a subject to have them be willing to spend some time doing boring stuff. At that time, computers weren't as ubiquitous as they are now.
- btgeekboy 13y agoIn the US, I used a similar program on Apple IIe computers, running LOGO and moving the turtle. And, similarly, I enjoyed it, while some of my classmates found it boring or difficult.