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I have to question whether this is actually true though. Yes, they have deviated somewhat from the design of older Thinkpads, but I think it's debatable whether
by ibrahima 12y ago
I have to question whether this is actually true though. Yes, they have deviated somewhat from the design of older Thinkpads, but I think it's debatable whether they're objectively worse, for the most part. I will say that things like the capacitive F key row on the X1 Carbon are pretty clearly a bad idea, but other minor changes to keyboard layout and even the clickpad thing I would argue could be considered better if you take someone who has never used either version and train them to use both and ask which they prefer. I personally have a T440s and it's a great machine, and I exclusively use the trackpoint. Because the clickpad actually depresses like normal buttons, it's still pretty natural to use it like a more standard trackpoint with buttons.
I mean, you can't say whether if IBM still owned Thinkpad they would not be making similar design decisions in order to appeal to mass market tastes. I feel like there's a sense in the Thinkpad community that the new Thinkpads are getting steadily worse but I would argue that that's more due to ingrained preferences rather than objective facts. It's just that because Lenovo is a Chinese company it's easy to blame the perceived downfall of Thinkpad as Lenovo driving costs down.
- nvarsj 12y agoIt is largely anecdotal, but you do see a lot of the same issues come up. I bought an x220, and a year later I've sworn off Thinkpads. The palmrest has cracked - a common problem for the x220, documented on forums - and Lenovo refuses to fix it. Similarly the keyboard has turned to complete mush - whereas my old X60 keyboard still feels good as new. The entire chassis has warped over time as well, which means it doesn't sit completely flat on a surface - another documented issue on thinkpad forums. And my first battery, a 9 cell Sanyo, died after about 9 months of careful use - again a well known issue on the forums. So this is why a lot of people perceive quality has tanked at Lenovo. IBM thinkpads did have their own problems (like bad screens), but in general were built like tanks and lasted years.