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"The golden soda has become essential nourishment for anyone in Berlin involved in hacktivism, club culture, dance music, tech—just about everyone in the city u

"The golden soda has become essential nourishment for anyone in Berlin involved in hacktivism, club culture, dance music, tech—just about everyone in the city under the age of 40." What a ridiculous sentence.

im3w1l 12y ago
It's probably written by Club Mate copywriters.
- bshimmin 12y ago
  The first half of the sentence definitely feels that way... the second half just feels almost offensively exclusionary. Unless Berlin is a really weird, dysfunctional place, like London's Old Street roundabout on a city-wide scale - which is a horrifying thought.
  - tormeh 12y ago
    Londoners usually think Berlin is kinda weird. Things are very different. The London ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. In Berlin it's actually the opposite. It's a bit hipsterish, but also really cool.
    - TillE 12y ago
      Berlin isn't really any more "hipster" than other cities, it's just...more relaxed. As you say, not so concerned with money and status. Not as frantic and crowded as New York or London. Lots and lots of trees. It's basically achieved the perfect urban population density thanks to blocks of six-story buildings. Very lively, but rarely uncomfortably crowded.
      - collyw 12y ago
        It is. People wandering around with stupid glasses with no lenses in them. Fixie bikes everywhere.
    - vidarh 12y ago
      > The London ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. The City ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. Outside of the City and Docklands, you'll find plenty of Londoners with nothing but scorn for that ideal.
  - TillE 12y ago
    You're parsing it wrong. Mentally insert an "and" after the hyphen.
gordaco 12y ago
The article looked to me like very obvious PR. This article[1] from pg has been linked like a million times, but it's as relevant as it was the first time. > Trend articles like this are almost always the work of PR firms. Once you know how to read them, it's straightforward to figure out who the client is. EDIT: oftenwrong linked the article before me; I hadn't read their message when I send mine. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- joshu 12y ago
  Standard disclaimer - this article was originally written about me, and was completely wrong. (Although this probably is a press hit)
biafra 12y ago
yeah. I am 40 and still drink club mate. :-)

im3w1l 12y ago

It's probably written by Club Mate copywriters.

bshimmin 12y ago
The first half of the sentence definitely feels that way... the second half just feels almost offensively exclusionary. Unless Berlin is a really weird, dysfunctional place, like London's Old Street roundabout on a city-wide scale - which is a horrifying thought.
- tormeh 12y ago
  Londoners usually think Berlin is kinda weird. Things are very different. The London ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. In Berlin it's actually the opposite. It's a bit hipsterish, but also really cool.
  - TillE 12y ago
    Berlin isn't really any more "hipster" than other cities, it's just...more relaxed. As you say, not so concerned with money and status. Not as frantic and crowded as New York or London. Lots and lots of trees. It's basically achieved the perfect urban population density thanks to blocks of six-story buildings. Very lively, but rarely uncomfortably crowded.
    - collyw 12y ago
      It is. People wandering around with stupid glasses with no lenses in them. Fixie bikes everywhere.
  - vidarh 12y ago
    > The London ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. The City ideal is suit, tie and lots of money. Outside of the City and Docklands, you'll find plenty of Londoners with nothing but scorn for that ideal.
- TillE 12y ago
  You're parsing it wrong. Mentally insert an "and" after the hyphen.

gordaco 12y ago

The article looked to me like very obvious PR. This article[1] from pg has been linked like a million times, but it's as relevant as it was the first time. > Trend articles like this are almost always the work of PR firms. Once you know how to read them, it's straightforward to figure out who the client is. EDIT: oftenwrong linked the article before me; I hadn't read their message when I send mine. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

joshu 12y ago
Standard disclaimer - this article was originally written about me, and was completely wrong. (Although this probably is a press hit)

biafra 12y ago

yeah. I am 40 and still drink club mate. :-)