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That's the general idea. Show them what life will be like if you're on the internet slow lane in the hopes they'll wake up and realize what it really means. Esp

That's the general idea. Show them what life will be like if you're on the internet slow lane in the hopes they'll wake up and realize what it really means. Especially since the branding has become that they really want to create a "fast lane" which actually doesn't sound like such a bad idea until you realize the reality is the exact opposite.

ojilles 12y ago
But if you target someone that doesn't understand the technology, their response is going to be exactly the opposite: "Look what they did, they should not be able to do that => let's carve out a separate part on the internet for essential services". And now you accomplished exactly the opposite. How about we collectively buy them faster lines?
twoodfin 12y ago
Show them what life will be like if you're on the internet slow lane in the hopes they'll wake up and realize what it really means. How do we get from "the kind of deal Netflix struck with Comcast will continue to be legal in the future" to "Comcast will start serving web sites to customers paying $50/month at dial-up speeds"? It's nonsense. Why have so many ostensibly smart people bought into it?
- jdmichal 12y ago
  Because Netflix only struck a deal with Comcast because too little Netflix traffic could pass through Comcast. That doesn't hurt Comcast at all, because they have monopoly. It does hurt Netflix, because now they have a bunch of subscribers who can't effectively use their service. People who can't effectively use a service tend to stop paying for it. So, given that these kinds of deals only happen when service is slow: What's the best way for Comcast to continue to be able to pull these fees in from large services? You're a smart person; I'm sure you can figure it out. Hint: Comcast has not exactly shown reluctance to participate in "traffic shaping" in the past.
  - twoodfin 12y ago
    Comcast has not exactly shown reluctance to participate in "traffic shaping" in the past. The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent. Did you have something else in mind? And again, what does that have to do with a supposed future of browsing websites at dialup speeds?
    - charonn0 12y ago
      > The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent. Isn't that enough?

ojilles 12y ago

But if you target someone that doesn't understand the technology, their response is going to be exactly the opposite: "Look what they did, they should not be able to do that => let's carve out a separate part on the internet for essential services". And now you accomplished exactly the opposite. How about we collectively buy them faster lines?

twoodfin 12y ago

Show them what life will be like if you're on the internet slow lane in the hopes they'll wake up and realize what it really means. How do we get from "the kind of deal Netflix struck with Comcast will continue to be legal in the future" to "Comcast will start serving web sites to customers paying $50/month at dial-up speeds"? It's nonsense. Why have so many ostensibly smart people bought into it?

jdmichal 12y ago
Because Netflix only struck a deal with Comcast because too little Netflix traffic could pass through Comcast. That doesn't hurt Comcast at all, because they have monopoly. It does hurt Netflix, because now they have a bunch of subscribers who can't effectively use their service. People who can't effectively use a service tend to stop paying for it. So, given that these kinds of deals only happen when service is slow: What's the best way for Comcast to continue to be able to pull these fees in from large services? You're a smart person; I'm sure you can figure it out. Hint: Comcast has not exactly shown reluctance to participate in "traffic shaping" in the past.
- twoodfin 12y ago
  Comcast has not exactly shown reluctance to participate in "traffic shaping" in the past. The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent. Did you have something else in mind? And again, what does that have to do with a supposed future of browsing websites at dialup speeds?
  - charonn0 12y ago
    > The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent. Isn't that enough?