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> This is the exact opposite of what I want in C++. This is the exact response I was expecting to go to the top of hacker news -- negative and dismissive. Also

> This is the exact opposite of what I want in C++. This is the exact response I was expecting to go to the top of hacker news -- negative and dismissive. Also, it's nonsense. Go to a Python mailing list, and count the number of emails complaining that "my program keeps seg faulting unexpectedly" due to "missing a single tab somewhere". Can't find any examples? Well, it would appear that Python coders are more competent than you. Alternatively, perhaps our eyes and brain are intrinsically wired to easily detect vertical and horizontal lines. Maybe that's why they're so prominent in design -- just a thought. And maybe that's why all C++ programs have some scheme of indentation to denote scope anyway. I really hate that whenever someone makes a proposal for a language, the zealots, be they lisp or C++ or whatever, immediately come out of the woodwork to heap scorn upon the idea. Personally, I think the kind of change proposed by the OP (with a few modifications) would be really nice, and would give the language a more Pythonic flavour, which isn't called executable pseudocode for nothing. > If vertical compression is an issue - get a bigger monitor or an IDE that allows for code hiding. You need to listen to yourself type.

nightski 12y ago
Maybe this is true, but I am just having a real hard time believing a fresh syntax is going to solve any real problems with C++. To do that a language with better semantics is needed, which is a much tougher problem being tackled by D, Rust, etc...
Zancarius 12y ago
> I really hate that whenever someone makes a proposal for a language, the zealots, be they lisp or C++ or whatever, immediately come out of the woodwork to heap scorn upon the idea. I often wonder if contrarianism is so prevalent in community discussions simply for the sake of disagreement or to provoke negative emotion. It's completely counter to constructive criticism. Although to be fair, there are some comments to the contrary that at least make a passing effort to explain what they don't like about the suggestion and why they dislike whitespace languages in general, so I can't tar everyone with the same brush. That said, considering some of the outright vitriol, I almost feel like someone ought to implement it on principle alone.
azth 12y ago
> my program keeps seg faulting unexpectedly Python scripts segfault?

nightski 12y ago

Maybe this is true, but I am just having a real hard time believing a fresh syntax is going to solve any real problems with C++. To do that a language with better semantics is needed, which is a much tougher problem being tackled by D, Rust, etc...

Zancarius 12y ago

> I really hate that whenever someone makes a proposal for a language, the zealots, be they lisp or C++ or whatever, immediately come out of the woodwork to heap scorn upon the idea. I often wonder if contrarianism is so prevalent in community discussions simply for the sake of disagreement or to provoke negative emotion. It's completely counter to constructive criticism. Although to be fair, there are some comments to the contrary that at least make a passing effort to explain what they don't like about the suggestion and why they dislike whitespace languages in general, so I can't tar everyone with the same brush. That said, considering some of the outright vitriol, I almost feel like someone ought to implement it on principle alone.

azth 12y ago

> my program keeps seg faulting unexpectedly Python scripts segfault?