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Cloudflare need a one click opt-in button in their client admin, to turn on such a feature for anyone to do with promoting anti-net-neutrality. I'd enable that

by junto 13y ago

Cloudflare need a one click opt-in button in their client admin, to turn on such a feature for anyone to do with promoting anti-net-neutrality. I'd enable that setting and I imagine lots of others would. I imagine Cloudflare already have a lot of sites under their control.

arh68 13y ago
Who's going to maintain the uh, brownlist?
- junto 13y ago
  Crowd-sourced? Shall we start one somewhere? Let's start with Comcast's headquarters... :-)
chimeracoder 13y ago
> I'd enable that setting and I imagine lots of others would I absolutely would - I run a few sites under Cloudflare. Instead of slowing down the traffic coming from the FCC (which is likely to be small), I'd recommend throttling by geography. For example, Comcast is based in Philadelphia (they already own the tallest building in Philadelphia[0], and are building another even larger one[0]). I imagine (e.g.) the denizens of Philadelphia would become a lot more vocal in their support for net neutrality with their elected officials if they started getting throttled. You could say that it's unfair to pick on Philadelphians when they haven't done anything wrong themselves. I'd agree, but on the other hand, that's what makes this so effective - it shows people how unjust and unfair the concept of content-based throttling is. It reminds me of Dan Savage's response to a poor woman who happened to share a last name with Rick Santorum, and wrote to him asking him to stop dragging her name through the mud[2], as she was only distantly related to him. His response was something along the lines of, "Instead of writing to me asking me to stop, write to him and ask him to stop being a bigot and tarnishing your name". [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Center_%28Philadelphia%29#Tenants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Center_%28Philadelphia... [1] Which says a lot about what they expect their business to be like in the near future.... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism#Reception_and_political_impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_ne...
- Silhouette 12y ago
  His response was something along the lines of, "Instead of writing to me asking me to stop, write to him and ask him to stop being a bigot and tarnishing your name". Perhaps he should also have suggested that she write to Google and ask them to stop supporting it. That would presumably have been similarly effective, and therefore a similarly constructive thing to suggest.
junto 12y ago
I've been thinking a bit more about this. Cloudflare should really consider doing this. What's more is that they are in a prime position to do this from a technology perspective too. The already have DDOS protection that does browser testing to make sure you aren't a bot. The could repurposed that by IP block. They also have enough engineers who understand which companies own which IP blocks. I'm envisioning a banner at the top of my Cloudflare account that simply says 'save the internet and participate in protecting net neutrality'. When I click on that I have three options: - Yes. Opt in. - No. Opt out. - Custom. Yes. Opt in: Cloudflare automatically throttle all blacklisted IP blocks. Users visiting from those IP blocks are presented with a page that explains why they are about to be throttled and tells them how to protest I.e. contact your congress representative, etc. The user is then throttled. No. You don't participate. Custom: you get to tweak the blacklist. You can whitelist ranges, in case you have important business customers that you don't want to piss off. You also get to select which of the different core blocked ranges you want to include. I.e. maybe there is a range for Comcast customers as well as Comcast offices and I find it cruel to penalise the Comcast customers, so I can unchecked them. As an added bonus you can opt in to a 'I want to publicise my site'. If you opt in to the protest then your site gets listed as a participant. Cloudflare can feature the big companies on the user pre-throttling warning page I mentioned earlier. They can also randomly show a list of smaller sites that are participating as well. They could also keep a leaderboard of the numbers of throttled users per site.

by junto 13y ago

arh68 13y ago

Who's going to maintain the uh, brownlist?

junto 13y ago
Crowd-sourced? Shall we start one somewhere? Let's start with Comcast's headquarters... :-)

chimeracoder 13y ago

> I'd enable that setting and I imagine lots of others would I absolutely would - I run a few sites under Cloudflare. Instead of slowing down the traffic coming from the FCC (which is likely to be small), I'd recommend throttling by geography. For example, Comcast is based in Philadelphia (they already own the tallest building in Philadelphia[0], and are building another even larger one[0]). I imagine (e.g.) the denizens of Philadelphia would become a lot more vocal in their support for net neutrality with their elected officials if they started getting throttled. You could say that it's unfair to pick on Philadelphians when they haven't done anything wrong themselves. I'd agree, but on the other hand, that's what makes this so effective - it shows people how unjust and unfair the concept of content-based throttling is. It reminds me of Dan Savage's response to a poor woman who happened to share a last name with Rick Santorum, and wrote to him asking him to stop dragging her name through the mud[2], as she was only distantly related to him. His response was something along the lines of, "Instead of writing to me asking me to stop, write to him and ask him to stop being a bigot and tarnishing your name". [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Center_%28Philadelphia%29#Tenants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Center_%28Philadelphia... [1] Which says a lot about what they expect their business to be like in the near future.... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism#Reception_and_political_impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_ne...

Silhouette 12y ago
His response was something along the lines of, "Instead of writing to me asking me to stop, write to him and ask him to stop being a bigot and tarnishing your name". Perhaps he should also have suggested that she write to Google and ask them to stop supporting it. That would presumably have been similarly effective, and therefore a similarly constructive thing to suggest.

junto 12y ago

I've been thinking a bit more about this. Cloudflare should really consider doing this. What's more is that they are in a prime position to do this from a technology perspective too. The already have DDOS protection that does browser testing to make sure you aren't a bot. The could repurposed that by IP block. They also have enough engineers who understand which companies own which IP blocks. I'm envisioning a banner at the top of my Cloudflare account that simply says 'save the internet and participate in protecting net neutrality'. When I click on that I have three options: - Yes. Opt in. - No. Opt out. - Custom. Yes. Opt in: Cloudflare automatically throttle all blacklisted IP blocks. Users visiting from those IP blocks are presented with a page that explains why they are about to be throttled and tells them how to protest I.e. contact your congress representative, etc. The user is then throttled. No. You don't participate. Custom: you get to tweak the blacklist. You can whitelist ranges, in case you have important business customers that you don't want to piss off. You also get to select which of the different core blocked ranges you want to include. I.e. maybe there is a range for Comcast customers as well as Comcast offices and I find it cruel to penalise the Comcast customers, so I can unchecked them. As an added bonus you can opt in to a 'I want to publicise my site'. If you opt in to the protest then your site gets listed as a participant. Cloudflare can feature the big companies on the user pre-throttling warning page I mentioned earlier. They can also randomly show a list of smaller sites that are participating as well. They could also keep a leaderboard of the numbers of throttled users per site.