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This is a case of "the 10000" http://xkcd.com/1053/ http://xkcd.com/1053/ to me. I've only been using bootstrap for 9 months, and I learned 4+ extremely useful

by claar 12y ago

This is a case of "the 10000" http://xkcd.com/1053/ http://xkcd.com/1053/ to me. I've only been using bootstrap for 9 months, and I learned 4+ extremely useful tips from this article.

nkozyra 12y ago
Not to be pedantic, but as mentioned elsewhere every tip here (sans the dropdown on hover one) is in the documentation itself. I'm really not trying to poo-poo the article but you could pluck 10 random things from Bootstrap's relatively simple documentation and have the same thing. Maybe if it were titled "cool things in Bootstrap" instead of being presented as "tricks."
- xauronx 12y ago
  What exactly is a "trick" then? I would argue that they're useful bits of functionality that a group of people might not know. For instance, if I post "math tips and tricks" to my facebook followers they'd be like "ooh, nice tips" but if I post them on a /r/mathematics I'd be told "they aren't tricks, that's just the way math works". I think you're just basically saying "I know this already so everyone else should too".
  - saurik 12y ago
    Math "tricks" are usually computational in nature (and so not particularly "mathematics") and while it might be obvious how they work to a mathematician, they are unlikely something the mathematician would expect to find in a textbook. (I was a math major for a few years in college, and have a ton of friends who still do research in and around mathematics today.)
- nkozyra 12y ago
  > What exactly is a "trick" then? I'd call a trick something that is not part of the documentation core, something that has unexpected effect or behavior that was unintended initially. None of those would apply here.
  - claar 12y ago
    The funny thing about your newly defined "trick" is that it would be foolish to rely on such undocumented behavior not changing on the next minor update. :)
    - nkozyra 12y ago
      Well the same applies to this definition of "trick" so I'm not sure that's a particularly damning point. Either way, I didn't say such "tricks" are without peril - surely a number of jQuery "tricks," even those that were eventually canonized, have been broken over the years as the library updates.
  - epo 12y ago
    "I'd call a trick something that is not part of the documentation core .." I'd call this particular definition a pedantic, artificial nitpick invented soley for the purpose of picking nits in the post. If on the other hand you use a conventional definition of trick, "a clever or particular way of doing something", then the post is indeed about a set of tricks.
    - DatBear 12y ago
      But these aren't clever or particular ways of doing things. You're using Bootstrap's css classes to do exactly what they're designed to do.
chrisweekly 12y ago
+1 for the "10,000" / xkcd.com/1053 reference, that's a great one. :) Also, for the pedants: in many English-speaking communities, "tips n tricks" is simply slang for "miscellaneous useful bits". Finally, general props to scotch.io for being a better-than-average blog.

by claar 12y ago

This is a case of "the 10000" http://xkcd.com/1053/ http://xkcd.com/1053/ to me. I've only been using bootstrap for 9 months, and I learned 4+ extremely useful tips from this article.

nkozyra 12y ago

Not to be pedantic, but as mentioned elsewhere every tip here (sans the dropdown on hover one) is in the documentation itself. I'm really not trying to poo-poo the article but you could pluck 10 random things from Bootstrap's relatively simple documentation and have the same thing. Maybe if it were titled "cool things in Bootstrap" instead of being presented as "tricks."

xauronx 12y ago
What exactly is a "trick" then? I would argue that they're useful bits of functionality that a group of people might not know. For instance, if I post "math tips and tricks" to my facebook followers they'd be like "ooh, nice tips" but if I post them on a /r/mathematics I'd be told "they aren't tricks, that's just the way math works". I think you're just basically saying "I know this already so everyone else should too".
- saurik 12y ago
  Math "tricks" are usually computational in nature (and so not particularly "mathematics") and while it might be obvious how they work to a mathematician, they are unlikely something the mathematician would expect to find in a textbook. (I was a math major for a few years in college, and have a ton of friends who still do research in and around mathematics today.)
nkozyra 12y ago
> What exactly is a "trick" then? I'd call a trick something that is not part of the documentation core, something that has unexpected effect or behavior that was unintended initially. None of those would apply here.
- claar 12y ago
  The funny thing about your newly defined "trick" is that it would be foolish to rely on such undocumented behavior not changing on the next minor update. :)
  - nkozyra 12y ago
    Well the same applies to this definition of "trick" so I'm not sure that's a particularly damning point. Either way, I didn't say such "tricks" are without peril - surely a number of jQuery "tricks," even those that were eventually canonized, have been broken over the years as the library updates.
- epo 12y ago
  "I'd call a trick something that is not part of the documentation core .." I'd call this particular definition a pedantic, artificial nitpick invented soley for the purpose of picking nits in the post. If on the other hand you use a conventional definition of trick, "a clever or particular way of doing something", then the post is indeed about a set of tricks.
  - DatBear 12y ago
    But these aren't clever or particular ways of doing things. You're using Bootstrap's css classes to do exactly what they're designed to do.

chrisweekly 12y ago

+1 for the "10,000" / xkcd.com/1053 reference, that's a great one. :) Also, for the pedants: in many English-speaking communities, "tips n tricks" is simply slang for "miscellaneous useful bits". Finally, general props to scotch.io for being a better-than-average blog.