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Agreed about Eich. However I would never extend that to a whole country. In addition to the episode bridling against my British sense of tolerance, this is I

by chippy 13y ago

Agreed about Eich. However I would never extend that to a whole country. In addition to the episode bridling against my British sense of tolerance, this is I wrote on HN at the time about the boycott: >I think the whole thing is sickening. Why? Because there are CEOs and companies that you and I use and love that are not boycotted. That are not hounded. That support the murder of people around the world. That support the exploitation of people. That pollute the environment. That invade the privacy of people's lives. That make the world a worse place. That we and our governments support. These are the targets that should be addressed.

dylandrop 13y ago
> That make the world a worse place. Maybe not your opinion, but giving campaign contributions to bigoted causes would be considered making the world a worse place to many. All of this is morally relative. Maybe 15 years ago he would have just been seen as someone with a politically conservative slant, but we're moving closer and closer to a society that sees him as someone with bigoted views. While I agree that there are unfortunately much more evil CEOs out there than Eich, it's silly to say "oh, well, there are worse guys out there, so let's let the moderately-morally-reprehensible ones go."
chasing 13y ago
First, just because there are big problems doesn't mean we can't address smaller problems. Even though tons upon tons of pollution are dumped into the environment every day, I still brush my teeth. Second: What if Eich gave money specifically to prevent you from marrying the person that you love? Pretty awful, right?
- scient 13y ago
  Yet it is up to him to decide what his personal beliefs and opinions. Having lived in the US for the past 6 months, I can totally relate to the author of the article on some stuff. Americans consider themselves to be very tolerant and mindful of minorities. In reality the political correctness has reached a point where if someone even remotely seems like offending any kind of minorities, they will get blasted and flamed like there's no tomorrow. It doesn't even matter how serious it was, when it happened, why it happened - that person is just going to get OWNED. I think the case of Eich illustrates this quite well. I mean the stuff I can joke around about back home is considered mostly off-limits and politically incorrect in the US. I still get weird looks from time to time when playfully joking about topics that are not considered offensive or sensitive in most places besides the US :) You guys (in the US) are just overdoing it, need to take chill pill at times imho.

by chippy 13y ago

dylandrop 13y ago

> That make the world a worse place. Maybe not your opinion, but giving campaign contributions to bigoted causes would be considered making the world a worse place to many. All of this is morally relative. Maybe 15 years ago he would have just been seen as someone with a politically conservative slant, but we're moving closer and closer to a society that sees him as someone with bigoted views. While I agree that there are unfortunately much more evil CEOs out there than Eich, it's silly to say "oh, well, there are worse guys out there, so let's let the moderately-morally-reprehensible ones go."

chasing 13y ago

First, just because there are big problems doesn't mean we can't address smaller problems. Even though tons upon tons of pollution are dumped into the environment every day, I still brush my teeth. Second: What if Eich gave money specifically to prevent you from marrying the person that you love? Pretty awful, right?

scient 13y ago
Yet it is up to him to decide what his personal beliefs and opinions. Having lived in the US for the past 6 months, I can totally relate to the author of the article on some stuff. Americans consider themselves to be very tolerant and mindful of minorities. In reality the political correctness has reached a point where if someone even remotely seems like offending any kind of minorities, they will get blasted and flamed like there's no tomorrow. It doesn't even matter how serious it was, when it happened, why it happened - that person is just going to get OWNED. I think the case of Eich illustrates this quite well. I mean the stuff I can joke around about back home is considered mostly off-limits and politically incorrect in the US. I still get weird looks from time to time when playfully joking about topics that are not considered offensive or sensitive in most places besides the US :) You guys (in the US) are just overdoing it, need to take chill pill at times imho.