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The ride time is 3:20 according to the linked-to page. I thought this was horrible. I guess it's "art", but still. Yuck.
by unwind 13y ago
The ride time is 3:20 according to the linked-to page.
I thought this was horrible. I guess it's "art", but still. Yuck.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago>> "I thought this was horrible." What about it did you find horrible? If you wanted to end your life it seems like a relatively pain free way to do so. Artistically it's also pretty interesting imo.
- nsxwolf 13y agoI find euthanasia to be horrible, so a euthanasia roller coaster is automatically horrible.
- JohnBooty 13y agoI, too, am offended by people wanting control over their own deaths. They should die when and how I tell them to die, not die with dignity at a time of their choosing!
- nsxwolf 13y agoThere is no such thing as death with dignity. The body is always corrupted. "Death with dignity" is a silly loaded catchphrase designed to put opponents off balance, and is offensive to those who have chosen to die another way - some might say, with courage.
- venomsnake 13y agoThere is no such thing as death with dignity. But there are different grades of death with indignity. And I am free to choose how when (hopefully in a long long time) it comes to that...
- aqme28 13y agoYou've said "those who have chosen to die another way," but people don't have that choice and are forbidden from making it. While you're opposed to euthanasia, would you be okay with giving people the option for euthanasia if they so chose?
- sbirchall 13y agoI find it particularly galling that "Death with dignity" is "a silly loaded catchphrase designed to put opponents off balance" and yet "Death with courage" is something you throw in to support that belief. You need to take a moment to listen to your own rhetoric and think about the people your opinions effect.
- nsxwolf 13y agoLet me make it clear: I am not in the least bit interested in your moral judgement of my beliefs, nor am I interested in your advice regarding my rhetoric.
- TallGuyShort 13y agoNor are the people who would choose to be euthanized interested in your beliefs. That's their point.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoOf course you are. Otherwise you'd be quietly secure in the knowledge of your own rightness, not trying to pick fights about it on the internet.
- nsxwolf 13y agoOh dear. I've really offended the Silicon Valley Suicide Gods. Be it known that merely having certain unpopular opinions about life issues is an instant 30+ karma hit.
- aaronem 13y agoWelcome to Hacker News.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoYeah, the rough thing about free speech is that, sometimes, people disagree with you.
- 6d0debc071 13y ago> The body is always corrupted. But what of the mind? It's the aspect of choice that lends anything its dignity. Being at peace with your decision. Some people find a measure of dignity in dying naturally, it's in accord with their wishes in that respect. Others don't. To deny those who are not at peace with it that choice robs them of some of their dignity. I remember my grandfather dying when I was a teenager, in the hospital he was pleading with everyone around him to kill him. I feel guilty for not doing it whenever I think about him. The one thing the poor bastard wanted, the only thing left anyone could give him. I can't hold it against him, it's not his fault. When people are suffering that much, they're not really thinking about whether they're asking a child to kill them. But he could have gone weeks earlier, could have been in a position to make the decision for himself rather than being reduced to begging. He could have been spared that, there'd have been more dignity in it.
- PhasmaFelis 13y ago> There is no such thing as death with dignity. The body is always corrupted. Okay! If my inevitable death is going to be corrupt and undignified no matter what I do, then it's a no-brainer to make it quick and painless rather than drawn-out and agonizing.
- jawns 13y agoI don't think you realize that euthanasia isn't always voluntary.
- Igglyboo 13y agoInvoluntary euthanasia is called murder, and that's already illegal.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoThere are several forms of euthanasia. Involuntary euthanasia (against the will of the patient) is something most people would agree is wrong and this roller coaster would unlikely be able to be used for it.
- 67726e 13y agoWouldn't "Involuntary euthanasia" just be murder?
- k-mcgrady 13y agoYes, I think so. Although when discussing euthanasia the distinction is probably made because if involuntary euthanasia were legal there would likely be a list of specific reasons you can do it (therefore drawing a distinction between involuntary euthanasia and murder).
- k-mcgrady 13y agoWhy do you find euthanasia horrible? It's much more horrible to force someone to endure sever pain against their will.
- nsxwolf 13y agoThere's really no point hashing out the argument here. It's a pointless discussion. I was just pointing out one of the possible reasons someone would find this roller coaster to be horrible.
- jawns 13y agoI don't think you realize that euthanasia isn't always voluntary.
- davidw 13y agoI think that someone dying is pretty horrible, even if it is less horrible than dying some other way.
- davidcollantes 13y agoDying is horrible? Why? We all die, it is a known end, why will it be horrible?
- fixermark 13y agoI personally hope I get to go the way I want to. ... struck directly in the head, from behind, caught completely unawares by something moving at several times the speed of sound, with enough size and kinetic energy to very quickly dissociate my body's molecules with negligible loss to the impactor's velocity. A rocket would do nicely. I know that there's no sensible way to justify the expense for one person's almost-certainly (based on current understanding of physics and biology) painless death. But a boy can dream. ;)
- davidcollantes 13y agoWhat do you find horrible about it?
- nilkn 13y agoDo you really want to devolve this into yet another internet debate on the morality of euthanasia? That's really not the point of this thought experiment.
- ekianjo 13y agoDefine pain free. When you get several Gs in your body I'm not sure you don't feel any kind of pain. If you like this as art then you are probably the kind of person who enjoy the painted cadaver's exhibitions.
- haberman 13y agoI think two minutes of that 3:20 are just getting to the top. The 10g only lasts 60 seconds.
- fauria 13y agoThis is how it would look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEklVDlqwbQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEklVDlqwbQ