That's fine. 'patio11 has lots of stories about that. However, the lack of up-front pricing data isn't being used to justify "I won't do business with you."

That's fine. 'patio11 has lots of stories about that. However, the lack of up-front pricing data isn't being used to justify "I won't do business with you." It's justifying "I'm going to take all your stuff anyway."