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That is a laughably narrow worldview. It's even sadder that instead of reasoning out why some domains don't make sense, you direct a burden on the community to

That is a laughably narrow worldview. It's even sadder that instead of reasoning out why some domains don't make sense, you direct a burden on the community to persuade you. After matt-42 took the time to create this, present it and share it, you're scoffing at him and challenging everyone else to open up your closed mind. I'm content to leave you confused in the corner, but you've sprayed your little pee on the beautiful garden where I walk each day so I'll give you a tip merely so it smells better to me and the rest my colleagues. My tip isn't about iod. It's this: Try re-approaching your evaluation of iod with the worldview that IS useful and sketch out some scenarios. If you can show that it doesn't make sense, you'll engage someone intelligent in a conversation. If you won't invest that time in yourself, don't expect anyone else to invest their time in you. > I think I'd be frustrated if I was working on someone's C++ code and I found objects springing up out of nowhere like that. That sounds like a personal problem having to do with self-control. You should get a blog. Speaking of which, the website listed in your profile, c10n.net, is down.

zedpm 12y ago
I find your vitriol unwelcome and inappropriate for a discussion that could be and ought to be constructive. I could spend some time explaining my position and defending my previous comment to you, but you haven't earned that. I will note, however, that questions like the one I posed are in general useful to open up discussion about something new like this. Instead of viewing it as an attack, see it as initiating some exposition on specific cases where this would be useful.
- chillingeffect 12y ago
  > vitriol > Instead of viewing it as an attack, see it as initiating some exposition on specific cases And you aren't you taking your own advice because why? If your comment is supposed to initiate some exposition, then fucking expose away or buzz off and fix c10n.net. All you did was throw up your arms and say "oh, I don't know if this is that great," without even trying it or pointing out why and expect others to fall in line below you and do all the work for you... And you can see the line of commenters telling you why iod /IS/ a good idea. You could have figured this out on your own, but instead you chose to spend your time getting others to give you the answers. Ever wonder why they call this website Hacker News and not Manager News? Asking others to figure out everything for you and report back is unwelcome and inappropriate. Commenting "I don't think this is a good idea, but I'm not going to say why" is unwelcome and inappropriate. You say "I could spend some time explaining my position and defending my previous comment to you" Bullshit. You don't have anything valuable to share except a regrettable knee-jerk reaction after you saw a little JSON in C++. You even admitted to "perhaps thinking naive." Own up to it. You just tried to cast doubt on something you know nothing about and you're getting called out on it in a more direct way than anyone has ever given you feedback before. And I don't care if you find me unwelcome. I am, in fact, brutal and I dislike you because you're a lazy bitch who doesn't contribute and can't keep your website running. And I DO have something to say about iod which is more than you have: I think iod is a brilliant effort. I will enjoy making C++ programs with inline-defined JSON to connect to my server and run it through all kinds of configurations. I don't want to touch Javascript to do that because I think Javascript is shit. Thank you matt-42. p.s. It didn't compile for me under cygwin with the command line "g++ -std=c++11 example.cc" because the symbol "iod_extend" is missing. I commented out line 42 and it built and ran fine. How many other fucking people in this thread even TRIED the code? They would have found the same bug as me if they had.
  - zedpm 12y ago
    You've managed to break the first two rules in the commenting guidelines [1]; it seems you're in no position to advise anyone on appropriate commenting on HN. Profanity, insults, and personal attacks simply don't belong here. Aside from your childish outbursts, we've had a productive conversation in this thread. [1] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - chillingeffect 12y ago
      Where the rule says "Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation," you imagine I would not use profanity in a face-to-face conversation. I will gleefully reiterate everything I've said here in a face-to-face conversation. I note that you have changed your tune toward the author ("I probably should have started out my initial comment by saying thanks") suggesting you're learning submitters' feelings outrank commenters'. There is hope for you yet.
      - foobar456 12y ago
        You're a douchebag
      - dang 12y ago
        Please don't make any more personally aggressive comments on Hacker News.
Pacabel 12y ago
There's absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something that somebody has worked on. In fact, such questioning should be encouraged. Good ideas and creators will be able to withstand such scrutiny without any problems at all. Bad ones can use it as an opportunity to improve.

zedpm 12y ago

I find your vitriol unwelcome and inappropriate for a discussion that could be and ought to be constructive. I could spend some time explaining my position and defending my previous comment to you, but you haven't earned that. I will note, however, that questions like the one I posed are in general useful to open up discussion about something new like this. Instead of viewing it as an attack, see it as initiating some exposition on specific cases where this would be useful.

chillingeffect 12y ago
> vitriol > Instead of viewing it as an attack, see it as initiating some exposition on specific cases And you aren't you taking your own advice because why? If your comment is supposed to initiate some exposition, then fucking expose away or buzz off and fix c10n.net. All you did was throw up your arms and say "oh, I don't know if this is that great," without even trying it or pointing out why and expect others to fall in line below you and do all the work for you... And you can see the line of commenters telling you why iod /IS/ a good idea. You could have figured this out on your own, but instead you chose to spend your time getting others to give you the answers. Ever wonder why they call this website Hacker News and not Manager News? Asking others to figure out everything for you and report back is unwelcome and inappropriate. Commenting "I don't think this is a good idea, but I'm not going to say why" is unwelcome and inappropriate. You say "I could spend some time explaining my position and defending my previous comment to you" Bullshit. You don't have anything valuable to share except a regrettable knee-jerk reaction after you saw a little JSON in C++. You even admitted to "perhaps thinking naive." Own up to it. You just tried to cast doubt on something you know nothing about and you're getting called out on it in a more direct way than anyone has ever given you feedback before. And I don't care if you find me unwelcome. I am, in fact, brutal and I dislike you because you're a lazy bitch who doesn't contribute and can't keep your website running. And I DO have something to say about iod which is more than you have: I think iod is a brilliant effort. I will enjoy making C++ programs with inline-defined JSON to connect to my server and run it through all kinds of configurations. I don't want to touch Javascript to do that because I think Javascript is shit. Thank you matt-42. p.s. It didn't compile for me under cygwin with the command line "g++ -std=c++11 example.cc" because the symbol "iod_extend" is missing. I commented out line 42 and it built and ran fine. How many other fucking people in this thread even TRIED the code? They would have found the same bug as me if they had.
- zedpm 12y ago
  You've managed to break the first two rules in the commenting guidelines [1]; it seems you're in no position to advise anyone on appropriate commenting on HN. Profanity, insults, and personal attacks simply don't belong here. Aside from your childish outbursts, we've had a productive conversation in this thread. [1] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - chillingeffect 12y ago
    Where the rule says "Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation," you imagine I would not use profanity in a face-to-face conversation. I will gleefully reiterate everything I've said here in a face-to-face conversation. I note that you have changed your tune toward the author ("I probably should have started out my initial comment by saying thanks") suggesting you're learning submitters' feelings outrank commenters'. There is hope for you yet.
    - foobar456 12y ago
      You're a douchebag
    - dang 12y ago
      Please don't make any more personally aggressive comments on Hacker News.

Pacabel 12y ago

There's absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something that somebody has worked on. In fact, such questioning should be encouraged. Good ideas and creators will be able to withstand such scrutiny without any problems at all. Bad ones can use it as an opportunity to improve.