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Makes sense. IBM tech did power the Holocaust.

ronjouch 12y ago
For details on executive's comment, see http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation/dp/0914153102 http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corpo...
aaronem 12y ago
As well as the Apollo program, in the form of the Saturn V instrument unit. I suppose it never ceases being necessary to reiterate that no technology is either good or evil, and it's not applied science which carries moral weight, but the uses to which people put it.
- mnordhoff 12y ago
  Indeed, and IBM are a collection of people who made, and still make, decisions about the uses to which their technology will be put. Technology does not amorally have the German census department -- or the Apollo program -- on speed dial.
  - camus2 12y ago
    Thats why USA welcomed so many nazi scientists right after WW2,operation paper clip...
- camus2 12y ago
  IBM is not a technology,it's a corporation. > that no technology is either good or evil, people certainly are,and since corporations are people ...
- antocv 12y ago
  " to reiterate that no technology is either good or evil," Well, thats like your, opinion, man. Some people believe technology is the root of all evil. Technology is by itself evil. Technology is destroyer of natural world and human societies. It is the driving force of alienation, specialization of labor and slavery. Since the invention of the wheel, oh so often epitomized as the great beginning of invention and technology, tech has promised more play and less work, instead several thousands year later, we can put wheels in our bodies and yet we work more and play less than ever before. The more technology in a society the more slavery, work and less play and dance. The more destructive capability. So, yes, you can have your opinion, man, but technology is evil.
  - kleim 12y ago
    I don't think so. Without technology any basic daily task become incredibly difficult. Try surviving a month in the wild: most of your thoughts and activity in a day would be focused toward getting food, drink, shelter... Technology freed us from these burdens.
    - antocv 12y ago
      "I don't think so. Without technology any basic daily task become incredibly difficult" Well, thats like, your opinion, man. You ask a non-civilized person to survive in New York for a month, then lets talk again. You are most hours of your life spending on acquiring food, drink and shelter. Its called work for a reason. Hunters-gatherer societies spent much less time, hunting to aquire food. An activity that you cant even do today if you dont toil for a few months to save for that activity. EDIT: btw, downvoting me for having a different opinion? thats nice.
      - aaronem 12y ago
        "By the sweat of thy brow shalt thou earn thy daily bread." It's tempting, I agree, to romanticize our species' distant past, to imagine that our hunter-gatherer ancestors enjoyed what Christian mythology calls the Garden of Eden, and that, had they but not invented agriculture, with its ties to the land and its back-breaking labor, we would even today still recline in paradisaical idyll. Perhaps that's even true, although I doubt it. But the arrow of time has only one head.
  - aaronem 12y ago
    Have you read Against His-Story, Against Leviathan!? If you hven't, you really must; I didn't think very highly of it, but from the sound of what you're spouting here, that book is right up your alley.
    - antocv 12y ago
      Yes I have thank you, if I have the time I will read it again. Very good catch, you hacker you.

For details on executive's comment, see http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation/dp/0914153102 http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corpo...

aaronem 12y ago

As well as the Apollo program, in the form of the Saturn V instrument unit. I suppose it never ceases being necessary to reiterate that no technology is either good or evil, and it's not applied science which carries moral weight, but the uses to which people put it.

mnordhoff 12y ago
Indeed, and IBM are a collection of people who made, and still make, decisions about the uses to which their technology will be put. Technology does not amorally have the German census department -- or the Apollo program -- on speed dial.
- camus2 12y ago
  Thats why USA welcomed so many nazi scientists right after WW2,operation paper clip...
camus2 12y ago
IBM is not a technology,it's a corporation. > that no technology is either good or evil, people certainly are,and since corporations are people ...
antocv 12y ago
" to reiterate that no technology is either good or evil," Well, thats like your, opinion, man. Some people believe technology is the root of all evil. Technology is by itself evil. Technology is destroyer of natural world and human societies. It is the driving force of alienation, specialization of labor and slavery. Since the invention of the wheel, oh so often epitomized as the great beginning of invention and technology, tech has promised more play and less work, instead several thousands year later, we can put wheels in our bodies and yet we work more and play less than ever before. The more technology in a society the more slavery, work and less play and dance. The more destructive capability. So, yes, you can have your opinion, man, but technology is evil.
- kleim 12y ago
  I don't think so. Without technology any basic daily task become incredibly difficult. Try surviving a month in the wild: most of your thoughts and activity in a day would be focused toward getting food, drink, shelter... Technology freed us from these burdens.
  - antocv 12y ago
    "I don't think so. Without technology any basic daily task become incredibly difficult" Well, thats like, your opinion, man. You ask a non-civilized person to survive in New York for a month, then lets talk again. You are most hours of your life spending on acquiring food, drink and shelter. Its called work for a reason. Hunters-gatherer societies spent much less time, hunting to aquire food. An activity that you cant even do today if you dont toil for a few months to save for that activity. EDIT: btw, downvoting me for having a different opinion? thats nice.
    - aaronem 12y ago
      "By the sweat of thy brow shalt thou earn thy daily bread." It's tempting, I agree, to romanticize our species' distant past, to imagine that our hunter-gatherer ancestors enjoyed what Christian mythology calls the Garden of Eden, and that, had they but not invented agriculture, with its ties to the land and its back-breaking labor, we would even today still recline in paradisaical idyll. Perhaps that's even true, although I doubt it. But the arrow of time has only one head.
- aaronem 12y ago
  Have you read Against His-Story, Against Leviathan!? If you hven't, you really must; I didn't think very highly of it, but from the sound of what you're spouting here, that book is right up your alley.
  - antocv 12y ago
    Yes I have thank you, if I have the time I will read it again. Very good catch, you hacker you.