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I'm sorry, but the problem is that due to Bitcoin's inherent properties you cannot completely detach it from political and economic agendas. Its deflationary na

• gnaritas 12y ago
  > I just don't understand it. That's right, you don't. Why, because you assume it must succeed as a currency to succeed and that's simply not true. It can succeed as a payment network and store of wealth while failing as a currency and be wildly successful still. The political ideologies you're attaching to it don't matter. > But don't expect everyone else to keep paying taxes and obey regulations. It's just not going to happen. Yes it will, the tax system already relies on voluntary reporting and people still declare and pay their taxes simply because it's illegal to not do so. Everyone isn't like you; they don't want to not pay their taxes and risk getting caught committing tax fraud. > with more people not willing to participate in government scam Once again, those are your political ideals and they are not shared by the vast majority of society. You are in the minority, we don't all see government as a scam. > If you truly believe society cannot survive and prosper without government, then the only logical step I see is for you to stop using Bitcoin or even lobby to ban it. Then you have very limited logical abilities and very small thinking.
  • snitko 12y ago
    1) Yes it will, the tax system already relies on voluntary reporting 2) they don't want to not pay their taxes and risk getting caught Talking about logical abilities. Taxes are voluntarily paid because people don't want to be caught and end up in jail? You can't call something voluntary if it requires threats for people to sign up.
    • gnaritas 12y ago
      Did I say taxes were voluntary...NO, please learn to read.
      • snitko 12y ago
        Good lord you're a nitpicker. You said "tax reporting" was voluntary. Fine. What happens if you don't report and IRS finds out? Are people scared of not reporting? Tax reporting IS NOT voluntary.
        • gnaritas 12y ago
          Tax reporting is voluntary, you are taxed on the income you report and people don't report income all the time because it'd be impractical for the IRS to care; for example no one reports income gained from having a yard sale and no one's afraid of that getting them in trouble because it's a petty amount of money. Just because you're scared of the consequences of getting caught lying doesn't mean lying isn't a voluntary option. Voluntary doesn't mean free of consequences. You are free to voluntarily lie about your income to the IRS, you are not free from the consequences of doing so should you get caught in a big lie. Tax reporting is voluntary. Taxes are not. I'm not nitpicking, I'm stating facts clearly. You tried to make the point that people won't report their Bitcoin income to the IRS; you are wrong, people aren't going to suddenly all start committing tax fraud just because you would. Most people will stay within the law and report any significant income because that's what people do. Most people aren't political radicals looking to bring down the system and they don't care about your ideals. You are not representative of most people; you are a dissident.
          • snitko 12y ago
            Calling me a radical and a dissident is not arguing. I can call you a statist and an accomplice to murder because your taxes finance wars that kill innocent people all over the world. But that won't matter. What matters is that taxes are theft because in order to take that money away you have to threaten people with fines and jail. If you couldn't fine or put people in jail, my guess is that most would stop paying taxes. If you can't prove logically that taxes aren't theft, then, of course, it's okay to call people names and not argue like an adult, because that is all you're left with.