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These are apparently illegal to use in the U.S. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jamme

by ckinnan 17y ago

These are apparently illegal to use in the U.S. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html

DanielStraight 17y ago
And for good reason. Who wants to have their cell phone rendered useless just because they happen to be standing too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them.
- sho 17y ago
  Similarly, it's a good thing dangerous chemical kits are outlawed in the US. Who wants to have their house burned down just because they happen to be living too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them? update: Hey, why am I being voted down? Not trying to be a douchebag here. I really do view EM freedom as strongly correlated with normal-speech freedom. "Pirate" radio stations anyone? Clamping down on "rogue" EM radiators is like clamping down on "rogue" anything else. We need a broader definition for "freedom of speech". EM is speech, too.
  - eli 17y ago
    1) Unless you're really trying, it's pretty difficult to burn down the neighborhood with a science kit. When using a cell phone jammer it's pretty hard not to affect all the people around you. That's kinda the point. Now, if you don't want cell phones used in some place that you own, then paint the walls with signal-blocking paint. 2) Have you tried to buy a chemical kit lately? They took out all the fun stuff years ago.
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  - hughprime 17y ago
    Unfortunately, declaring "EM freedom" is pretty much incompatible with the idea of using the EM spectrum for anything useful. If my freedom to actually use a cellphone or a wifi network conflicts with your freedom to make a 10 kW roving-frequency 24-hour bagpipe music transmission, how do we resolve that one? This isn't really a hypothetical problem either -- if anyone could broadcast anything at any frequency at any time I'm pretty sure everything would fill up with ads of some kind.
  - wmeredith 17y ago
    Your rights end where mine begin. As a libertarian I believe that you should be able to do almost anything to yourself. Start monkeying other people's property/body/space and I'm against it.
- a-priori 17y ago
  This is especially true in emergencies.
- antonovka 17y ago
  While I don't disagree, I find the opposite idea amusing. Who wants to have their consciousness and conversations disrupted by a loud cell phone user who decided they're more important than everyone else around them?
  - DanielStraight 17y ago
    No one. The rule generalizes to "Don't be an ass with regard to cell phones." It's really that simple.
chunkyslink 17y ago
This is illegal but guns are not
- slackerIII 17y ago
  It is in fact illegal to use a gun to interrupt cell phone conversations.
  - gnosis 17y ago
    Not in self-defense.
tedshroyer 17y ago
Small bit of info from the FCC: "The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b)." http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_2&id=cellular http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_2&...

by ckinnan 17y ago

These are apparently illegal to use in the U.S. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html

DanielStraight 17y ago

And for good reason. Who wants to have their cell phone rendered useless just because they happen to be standing too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them.

sho 17y ago
Similarly, it's a good thing dangerous chemical kits are outlawed in the US. Who wants to have their house burned down just because they happen to be living too close to someone who decided they're more important than everyone else around them? update: Hey, why am I being voted down? Not trying to be a douchebag here. I really do view EM freedom as strongly correlated with normal-speech freedom. "Pirate" radio stations anyone? Clamping down on "rogue" EM radiators is like clamping down on "rogue" anything else. We need a broader definition for "freedom of speech". EM is speech, too.
- eli 17y ago
  1) Unless you're really trying, it's pretty difficult to burn down the neighborhood with a science kit. When using a cell phone jammer it's pretty hard not to affect all the people around you. That's kinda the point. Now, if you don't want cell phones used in some place that you own, then paint the walls with signal-blocking paint. 2) Have you tried to buy a chemical kit lately? They took out all the fun stuff years ago.
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- hughprime 17y ago
  Unfortunately, declaring "EM freedom" is pretty much incompatible with the idea of using the EM spectrum for anything useful. If my freedom to actually use a cellphone or a wifi network conflicts with your freedom to make a 10 kW roving-frequency 24-hour bagpipe music transmission, how do we resolve that one? This isn't really a hypothetical problem either -- if anyone could broadcast anything at any frequency at any time I'm pretty sure everything would fill up with ads of some kind.
- wmeredith 17y ago
  Your rights end where mine begin. As a libertarian I believe that you should be able to do almost anything to yourself. Start monkeying other people's property/body/space and I'm against it.
a-priori 17y ago
This is especially true in emergencies.
antonovka 17y ago
While I don't disagree, I find the opposite idea amusing. Who wants to have their consciousness and conversations disrupted by a loud cell phone user who decided they're more important than everyone else around them?
- DanielStraight 17y ago
  No one. The rule generalizes to "Don't be an ass with regard to cell phones." It's really that simple.

chunkyslink 17y ago

This is illegal but guns are not

slackerIII 17y ago
It is in fact illegal to use a gun to interrupt cell phone conversations.
- gnosis 17y ago
  Not in self-defense.

tedshroyer 17y ago

Small bit of info from the FCC: "The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b)." http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_2&id=cellular http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_2&...