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I don't fully understand it. What exactly did Se & Hør pay for access for? Some nation-wide (or bank-wide) database of credit card transactions? If so, awesome!

by aw3c2 13y ago

I don't fully understand it. What exactly did Se & Hør pay for access for? Some nation-wide (or bank-wide) database of credit card transactions? If so, awesome! I wish more people who expose what kind of databases are available if you are capable to pay.

Shizka 13y ago
EDIT -- See the response by Svips. It gives a better overview. In Denmark(and Scandinavia) we have a company called Nets who is a provider for credit card and banking transaction services. They thus have a lot of personal information on everybody There was a highly ranked entrusted person within Nets who leaked personal information from a database containing banking transactions to the magazine "Se & Hør". This magazine is probably something like "The Sun" in Britain. I'm not entirely sure about the comparison, but I think it's about the same. Anyways, the person who leaked the information provided information about the location of several celebrities and the royal family to a journalist within the magazine. This allowed the paper to locate people when they were traveling or on honeymoon. After looking at the information the person could, due to his high ranking, delete all traces of having looked at the information.
- seivan 13y ago
  Nets operates in Singapore as well. I kept using them instead of regular debit cards there. Is the same company?
  - Svip 13y ago
    http://www.nets.eu/Contact/wheretofindus/Pages/default.aspx http://www.nets.eu/Contact/wheretofindus/Pages/default.aspx According to that page, I doubt it. Must be a different Nets. Nets appears only to operate around the Baltic and Nordic countries.
- marvin 13y ago
  Huh. So basically this means that every Norwagian and Dane's credit & debit card usage has been up for sale to the highest bidder since 2008 at least. And since Nets operates out of Singapore, the authorities don't have a say in it. I truly hope this stirs up a major shitstorm, I am very much not okay with this.
  - Svip 13y ago
    You are mistaken. Nets does not operate out of Singapore.[0] That is a different Nets.[1] They are unrelated. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nets_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nets_Group [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_for_Electronic_Transfers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_for_Electronic_Transfer...
Svip 13y ago
Let me summarise the case for you: PBS (Pengeinstitutternes Betalingsservice) was created in the 1980s by the Danish banks and the National Bank, originally to facilitate the Danish national credit card, Dankort. Eventually PBS also took control of all credit cards by Danish card holders including Visa and MasterCard through arrangements with said credit card companies. Eventually PBS got privatised and joined with the Norwegian equivalent and became Nets (yes, the name is stupid). Nets - in Denmark at least - has access to all credit card transactions by Danish credit card holders. At least since 1996, Se og Hør has been doing something like this, but it was not until 2008 the process got streamlined. Effectively they paid an IBM employee (because Nets had outsourced that department to IBM Denmark) 10.000 DKK a month to trace credit cards and send journalists at Se og Hør updates when specific cards were in use. In addition to celebrities, royals and politicians, also regular persons were targeted in cases related to murder, traffic accidents and so forth. In 2008, the use of this information meant that a Se og Hør journalist knew the heir and his wife bought a ticket to Canada, so he could be on the same plane (much to the surprise of the Prince). In addition to the data originating from Nets, it is now clear that Se og Hør had sources at SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) and the CPH airport, so they could verify the passenger lists for each flight. And that's how the journalist managed to be on the right plane. Moreover, it is now apparent that not only journalists at Se og Hør were aware of it, but also editors and owners as well. New information in this scandal is practically coming in by the hour.
digitalengineer 13y ago
Doen't suprise me one bit. In Holland even the parking lots sell your data. Your licence plate, time spend and date. The buyer? Well the government and tax-department af course.

by aw3c2 13y ago

Shizka 13y ago

EDIT -- See the response by Svips. It gives a better overview. In Denmark(and Scandinavia) we have a company called Nets who is a provider for credit card and banking transaction services. They thus have a lot of personal information on everybody There was a highly ranked entrusted person within Nets who leaked personal information from a database containing banking transactions to the magazine "Se & Hør". This magazine is probably something like "The Sun" in Britain. I'm not entirely sure about the comparison, but I think it's about the same. Anyways, the person who leaked the information provided information about the location of several celebrities and the royal family to a journalist within the magazine. This allowed the paper to locate people when they were traveling or on honeymoon. After looking at the information the person could, due to his high ranking, delete all traces of having looked at the information.

seivan 13y ago
Nets operates in Singapore as well. I kept using them instead of regular debit cards there. Is the same company?
- Svip 13y ago
  http://www.nets.eu/Contact/wheretofindus/Pages/default.aspx http://www.nets.eu/Contact/wheretofindus/Pages/default.aspx According to that page, I doubt it. Must be a different Nets. Nets appears only to operate around the Baltic and Nordic countries.
marvin 13y ago
Huh. So basically this means that every Norwagian and Dane's credit & debit card usage has been up for sale to the highest bidder since 2008 at least. And since Nets operates out of Singapore, the authorities don't have a say in it. I truly hope this stirs up a major shitstorm, I am very much not okay with this.
- Svip 13y ago
  You are mistaken. Nets does not operate out of Singapore.[0] That is a different Nets.[1] They are unrelated. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nets_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nets_Group [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_for_Electronic_Transfers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_for_Electronic_Transfer...

Svip 13y ago

Let me summarise the case for you: PBS (Pengeinstitutternes Betalingsservice) was created in the 1980s by the Danish banks and the National Bank, originally to facilitate the Danish national credit card, Dankort. Eventually PBS also took control of all credit cards by Danish card holders including Visa and MasterCard through arrangements with said credit card companies. Eventually PBS got privatised and joined with the Norwegian equivalent and became Nets (yes, the name is stupid). Nets - in Denmark at least - has access to all credit card transactions by Danish credit card holders. At least since 1996, Se og Hør has been doing something like this, but it was not until 2008 the process got streamlined. Effectively they paid an IBM employee (because Nets had outsourced that department to IBM Denmark) 10.000 DKK a month to trace credit cards and send journalists at Se og Hør updates when specific cards were in use. In addition to celebrities, royals and politicians, also regular persons were targeted in cases related to murder, traffic accidents and so forth. In 2008, the use of this information meant that a Se og Hør journalist knew the heir and his wife bought a ticket to Canada, so he could be on the same plane (much to the surprise of the Prince). In addition to the data originating from Nets, it is now clear that Se og Hør had sources at SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) and the CPH airport, so they could verify the passenger lists for each flight. And that's how the journalist managed to be on the right plane. Moreover, it is now apparent that not only journalists at Se og Hør were aware of it, but also editors and owners as well. New information in this scandal is practically coming in by the hour.

digitalengineer 13y ago

Doen't suprise me one bit. In Holland even the parking lots sell your data. Your licence plate, time spend and date. The buyer? Well the government and tax-department af course.