I completely agree, and I think if someone is looking for startup ideas, than Java EE one click distribution to WebLogic, WebSphere, JBoss clusters will be real

I completely agree, and I think if someone is looking for startup ideas, than Java EE one click distribution to WebLogic, WebSphere, JBoss clusters will be really worth the while. There is a huge enterprise market that is not ready yet to fully go to the cloud, or has their own "local" clouds (banking, insurance). The only solution I found till now that is remotely in the direction for Java EE is Cargo (http://cargo.codehaus.org/ http://cargo.codehaus.org/) but it seems to be more directed toward integration testing automation than deployment automation. Puppet was my hope but it is not even trying to be Java / JEE friendly from what I've seen. Oracle need to define a very opinionated, standard method of deploying, starting and stopping Java EE servers (JMX doesn't cut it yet) and IBM, and other vendors should comply, because eventually banks will ditch WebSphere / WebLogic toward things like Akka, Spary, DropWizard, TomEE etc. and IBM and Oracle will have nothing left to sell.