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- No curly braces around anything. - Whitespace seems to be important, just like python. That might be a 'bug' for you, but that's a feature for most. At

by idlewan 12y ago

- No curly braces around anything. - Whitespace seems to be important, just like python. That might be a 'bug' for you, but that's a feature for most. At least for Python, Yaml, Coffeescript, Jade, Stylus and Nimrod users :)

SeanDav 12y ago
A "C" type programming language with no curly brackets (or equivalent) and significant whitespace is a huge negative for me and utter deal breaker. This is the first time I have heard about Nimrod and was very interested to see more. It was all looking so good until I came to this part. Literally I stopped browsing the Nimrod site and closed it down (with some regret) as soon as I saw this. Not interested anymore.
- jessaustin 12y ago
  Does this strong preference come from any particular experience? E.g., has Python's significant whitespace caused persistent errors on a project?
  - deckiedan 12y ago
    From Python-land, if you find that no brackets are meaning it's hard to tell where conditionals & functions end, it's usually a good sign that you're logic is getting too nested. Yes, it's a pain to work with massively nested logic, but it's actually python's way of saying, "dude! keep your functions small and simple!", which I've come to appreciate. It's one of the things I like about python, actually, is that it really tries hard to encourage you to write good code. Once things start looking ugly and hard to understand, it usually means that the logic & method you're trying to implement isn't a great choice.
  - dscrd 12y ago
    It makes copy/paste programming so much more difficult...
- mamcx 12y ago
  Not interested? The C brackets stuff is a mess: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/02/apple_security_bug_a_critical_flaw_was_extraordinarily_simple.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/02/app... (The error above is not only about the gotos) Is inconsistent. Cause bugs. Can be write like brackets don't exist (http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/topten.html http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/topten.html), nullify your argument. Pick the above link and count how much problems are masked with the illusion of the brackets. Is unnecessary (add noise just to help the parser), and python, haskell and other languages show that could be done better.
- andreasvc 12y ago
  Do you realize how close-minded you sound? This is purely a bikeshed issue.
  - pjzedalis 12y ago
    Correction: He sounds close-bracketed.

by idlewan 12y ago

SeanDav 12y ago

A "C" type programming language with no curly brackets (or equivalent) and significant whitespace is a huge negative for me and utter deal breaker. This is the first time I have heard about Nimrod and was very interested to see more. It was all looking so good until I came to this part. Literally I stopped browsing the Nimrod site and closed it down (with some regret) as soon as I saw this. Not interested anymore.

jessaustin 12y ago
Does this strong preference come from any particular experience? E.g., has Python's significant whitespace caused persistent errors on a project?
- deckiedan 12y ago
  From Python-land, if you find that no brackets are meaning it's hard to tell where conditionals & functions end, it's usually a good sign that you're logic is getting too nested. Yes, it's a pain to work with massively nested logic, but it's actually python's way of saying, "dude! keep your functions small and simple!", which I've come to appreciate. It's one of the things I like about python, actually, is that it really tries hard to encourage you to write good code. Once things start looking ugly and hard to understand, it usually means that the logic & method you're trying to implement isn't a great choice.
- dscrd 12y ago
  It makes copy/paste programming so much more difficult...
mamcx 12y ago
Not interested? The C brackets stuff is a mess: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/02/apple_security_bug_a_critical_flaw_was_extraordinarily_simple.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/02/app... (The error above is not only about the gotos) Is inconsistent. Cause bugs. Can be write like brackets don't exist (http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/topten.html http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/topten.html), nullify your argument. Pick the above link and count how much problems are masked with the illusion of the brackets. Is unnecessary (add noise just to help the parser), and python, haskell and other languages show that could be done better.
andreasvc 12y ago
Do you realize how close-minded you sound? This is purely a bikeshed issue.
- pjzedalis 12y ago
  Correction: He sounds close-bracketed.