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I assume you also don't see anything wrong about reporters pushing agendas instead of just reporting, right? EDIT: Do you often downvote people just because yo

I assume you also don't see anything wrong about reporters pushing agendas instead of just reporting, right? EDIT: Do you often downvote people just because you disagree with them? You said it yourself you haven't given it much thought and your reply adds nothing at all. If any reply should be downvoted, it's yours. Have a nice day.

Joeboy 12y ago
Although I would be interested to know more about the killswitch agenda you mention, which I am not currently really aware of, I don't really want to pursue a conversation with you in the manner you apparently want to converse. I didn't downvote either of your comments. In fact I'm not able to downvote your second comment (which frankly I think does deserve downvoting), I think because it's a reply to mine. I hope you also have a nice day.
- raldi 12y ago
  I hope you don't mind if I steal this text the next time I find myself in a similar internet situation.
matthewmacleod 12y ago
I assume you also don't see anything wrong about reporters pushing agendas instead of just reporting, right? The statement you mention is a quote, and a relevant one at that. But let's be clear - there is no way in which a "killswitch" requires "unfettered access to our mobile phones." Indeed, the UK (and I believe the wider EU?) has a global register of blocked IMEI numbers to which mobile phones are added - while it's possible to circumvent this in various ways, there are also more steps that could be taken to achieve the required outcome without handing over the keys. Or if you want to push it a bit further, it's not hard to design a system in which an owner can cryptographically prevent the use of their phone without handing the keys over to a third party. However, the struggle here is that users would not engage with this system well, rendering it pretty useless.
- vidarh 12y ago
  And yet despite the IMEI block register, phones are still stolen in large numbers.
Karunamon 12y ago
You're being downvoted for the frankly absurd and incorrect position of asserting that a relevant quote from a DA interviewed for the article is "pushing agendas". And a bit more for the incorrect assumption that a kill switch requires government access of any kind. And probably more for complaining about being downvoted in an accusatory tone. So. Being wrong, being wrong, meta noise, bad attitude. Any questions?

Joeboy 12y ago

Although I would be interested to know more about the killswitch agenda you mention, which I am not currently really aware of, I don't really want to pursue a conversation with you in the manner you apparently want to converse. I didn't downvote either of your comments. In fact I'm not able to downvote your second comment (which frankly I think does deserve downvoting), I think because it's a reply to mine. I hope you also have a nice day.

raldi 12y ago
I hope you don't mind if I steal this text the next time I find myself in a similar internet situation.

matthewmacleod 12y ago

I assume you also don't see anything wrong about reporters pushing agendas instead of just reporting, right? The statement you mention is a quote, and a relevant one at that. But let's be clear - there is no way in which a "killswitch" requires "unfettered access to our mobile phones." Indeed, the UK (and I believe the wider EU?) has a global register of blocked IMEI numbers to which mobile phones are added - while it's possible to circumvent this in various ways, there are also more steps that could be taken to achieve the required outcome without handing over the keys. Or if you want to push it a bit further, it's not hard to design a system in which an owner can cryptographically prevent the use of their phone without handing the keys over to a third party. However, the struggle here is that users would not engage with this system well, rendering it pretty useless.

vidarh 12y ago
And yet despite the IMEI block register, phones are still stolen in large numbers.

Karunamon 12y ago

You're being downvoted for the frankly absurd and incorrect position of asserting that a relevant quote from a DA interviewed for the article is "pushing agendas". And a bit more for the incorrect assumption that a kill switch requires government access of any kind. And probably more for complaining about being downvoted in an accusatory tone. So. Being wrong, being wrong, meta noise, bad attitude. Any questions?