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CSDN is a tech forum/news site, kinda like Techcrunch. It has been around for quite a few years. This github like thingi seems like a joint effort between CSDN

CSDN is a tech forum/news site, kinda like Techcrunch. It has been around for quite a few years. This github like thingi seems like a joint effort between CSDN and Tencent, whose open source projects (currently six of them) can be found at https://code.csdn.net/Tencent https://code.csdn.net/Tencent. Traditionally, China doesn't have a strong open source culture and Github was being blocked every now and then. Hopefully a Github clone backed by big players can change that.

yeukhon 12y ago
I think Github team may learn something from the Chinese (and I recall this is true in many Eastern Asian) community. Portal is essential in many popular Chinese websites. People like reading columns and discover things from headlines and visual columns. Imagine Github offers a way for organizaitons to publish news! So instead of me going to blog.mozilla.org or blog.github.com to find out what's going on, I can just subscribe to an organization, get a newsfeed of their latest releases and announcement, and highlight commits (ex: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/59 https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/59) ! I don't have time to implement this as an idea, but I think Github has that resource to implement it.
- w1ntermute 12y ago
  I think that the popularity of portal sites in East Asian countries is tied to their high-context cultures, so I doubt they would be very popular in the low-context West. The use of highly cluttered web designs is also a distinctly East Asian phenomenon, but I'm not sure what the cultural explanation for that would be. It's especially odd to see it in Japan, where a more sparse aesthetic dominated the traditional culture.
  - lotsofmangos 12y ago
    You reminded me of the sheer abominable genius of the website for Ling's Cars http://www.lingscars.com/ http://www.lingscars.com/ which is one of the finest examples of this in the UK.
    - thret 12y ago
      I feel like your link should have a warning label of some kind.
      - lotsofmangos 12y ago
        May cause sensory shock and temporary blindness/insanity. Do not use while driving.
  - LeonidasXIV 12y ago
    > The use of highly cluttered web designs is also a distinctly East Asian phenomenon, but I'm not sure what the cultural explanation for that would be. I'm not 100% sure either, but the explanation given in http://www.tofugu.com/2012/05/15/japanese-web-design-why-you-so-2003/ http://www.tofugu.com/2012/05/15/japanese-web-design-why-you... seems not too far off.
    - userbinator 12y ago
      I think it has to do with East Asian languages in general having a much higher information density, so their designs also reflect that. To me, that author's examples of "beautiful web design" appear relatively contentless and unfinished (except for the first one), while those he dislikes are obviously content-centric and seem far more pragmatic and useful. The bias is quite evident in that article: "One culture's clutter is another culture's useful information." Being from the East myself, I've always found the increasingly "information-averse" nature of the West to be a little odd.
    - null_ptr 12y ago
      Wow, that Tofugu site exemplifies the Hipster Phenomenon, with an always-there menu bar that takes a third of my browser window's vertical space!
  - ontoillogical 12y ago
    What does "high-context" and "low-context" mean in this context?
    - shagie 12y ago
      Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-_and_low-context_cultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-_and_low-context_cultures Short version, in a 'high context culture', things can be left unsaid and the cultural background will explain effectively to people within that culture (and less effectively to people outside that culture). A Texan (the American south is high context) can say quite a bit with 'yep...' and letting the culture explain the rest of the meaning. In a low context culture, less emphasis is placed on single word choices (though they can still be important) and more explanation of the entire context of the communication is done.
    - wisty 12y ago
      High context is vague. As in, you're expected to already have a good idea of the context.
- thwarted 12y ago
  Sounds like, ahem, a browser based RSS aggregator and reader.
- fanweixiao 12y ago
  I've worked for CSDN for 3 years, and have a few friends working for Github. The way of they made things are totally different. :+1: for follow an organization
turingbook 12y ago
Editor in Chief at CSDN here. CSDN is the biggest online community for developers and IT pros in China with more than 30 million registered members. Its news and discussion service part is more like HN or Reddit/programming other than Tech Crunch. And it also has services for blogging, code hosting, programming training and careers, all developers centered. The code hosting service under discussion is based on Gitlab, developed and operated by CSDN staff. Tencent became a sponsor this year. And because there are not enough open source projects and contributors in China, we are instead building user community around open source projects at first. It will be a little different with Github way.
- haithink 12y ago
  yeah, Thank you !
- TuxLyn 12y ago
  Any plans on adding "English" and other languages to the site ? There is some very interesting features :)
  - cm_1521 12y ago
    I am in charge of CSDN development team. We don't have a plan to make an English version yet as for now our focus is still on local open source community setup. Maybe one day when the situation is mature enough...
    - markvdb 12y ago
      Why not design internationalisation and localisation into it, and have contributors translate the ui? Shouldn't be too much of a problem. That might be an excellent way to demonstrate the power of FOSS to a small but growing community in China...
      - gbraad 12y ago
        +1. Too often organisations like CSDN, 51CTO, etc believe that the Chinese market is 'totally' different and therefore needs a different approach/method. They still need to realize it is not the message itself, but 'how' you tell the message. Side note: I have been closely involved in the Chinese Fedora community; assisting and streamlining procedures within the community and getting the community members closer aligned with the project and project goals. As a project we actually haven't treated Asia or China any different from other regions, such as South America, Europe, etc.
userbinator 12y ago
> Traditionally, China doesn't have a strong open source culture Not "legally/officially open source" at least, but for some other definitions of "open", the culture is definitely there. :-)
- cm_1521 12y ago
  It is partly true. That's why CSDN tried to adopt a different strategy other than Github. Quality and quantity of original open source projects in China are not good enough. As the 1st step, CSDN is trying to foster the culture. To have the IT giants, like Tencent onboard, is definitely helpful to attract more engineers to play some parts in the game.

yeukhon 12y ago

I think Github team may learn something from the Chinese (and I recall this is true in many Eastern Asian) community. Portal is essential in many popular Chinese websites. People like reading columns and discover things from headlines and visual columns. Imagine Github offers a way for organizaitons to publish news! So instead of me going to blog.mozilla.org or blog.github.com to find out what's going on, I can just subscribe to an organization, get a newsfeed of their latest releases and announcement, and highlight commits (ex: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/59 https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/59) ! I don't have time to implement this as an idea, but I think Github has that resource to implement it.

w1ntermute 12y ago
I think that the popularity of portal sites in East Asian countries is tied to their high-context cultures, so I doubt they would be very popular in the low-context West. The use of highly cluttered web designs is also a distinctly East Asian phenomenon, but I'm not sure what the cultural explanation for that would be. It's especially odd to see it in Japan, where a more sparse aesthetic dominated the traditional culture.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  You reminded me of the sheer abominable genius of the website for Ling's Cars http://www.lingscars.com/ http://www.lingscars.com/ which is one of the finest examples of this in the UK.
  - thret 12y ago
    I feel like your link should have a warning label of some kind.
    - lotsofmangos 12y ago
      May cause sensory shock and temporary blindness/insanity. Do not use while driving.
- LeonidasXIV 12y ago
  > The use of highly cluttered web designs is also a distinctly East Asian phenomenon, but I'm not sure what the cultural explanation for that would be. I'm not 100% sure either, but the explanation given in http://www.tofugu.com/2012/05/15/japanese-web-design-why-you-so-2003/ http://www.tofugu.com/2012/05/15/japanese-web-design-why-you... seems not too far off.
  - userbinator 12y ago
    I think it has to do with East Asian languages in general having a much higher information density, so their designs also reflect that. To me, that author's examples of "beautiful web design" appear relatively contentless and unfinished (except for the first one), while those he dislikes are obviously content-centric and seem far more pragmatic and useful. The bias is quite evident in that article: "One culture's clutter is another culture's useful information." Being from the East myself, I've always found the increasingly "information-averse" nature of the West to be a little odd.
  - null_ptr 12y ago
    Wow, that Tofugu site exemplifies the Hipster Phenomenon, with an always-there menu bar that takes a third of my browser window's vertical space!
- ontoillogical 12y ago
  What does "high-context" and "low-context" mean in this context?
  - shagie 12y ago
    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-_and_low-context_cultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-_and_low-context_cultures Short version, in a 'high context culture', things can be left unsaid and the cultural background will explain effectively to people within that culture (and less effectively to people outside that culture). A Texan (the American south is high context) can say quite a bit with 'yep...' and letting the culture explain the rest of the meaning. In a low context culture, less emphasis is placed on single word choices (though they can still be important) and more explanation of the entire context of the communication is done.
  - wisty 12y ago
    High context is vague. As in, you're expected to already have a good idea of the context.
thwarted 12y ago
Sounds like, ahem, a browser based RSS aggregator and reader.
fanweixiao 12y ago
I've worked for CSDN for 3 years, and have a few friends working for Github. The way of they made things are totally different. :+1: for follow an organization

turingbook 12y ago

Editor in Chief at CSDN here. CSDN is the biggest online community for developers and IT pros in China with more than 30 million registered members. Its news and discussion service part is more like HN or Reddit/programming other than Tech Crunch. And it also has services for blogging, code hosting, programming training and careers, all developers centered. The code hosting service under discussion is based on Gitlab, developed and operated by CSDN staff. Tencent became a sponsor this year. And because there are not enough open source projects and contributors in China, we are instead building user community around open source projects at first. It will be a little different with Github way.

haithink 12y ago
yeah, Thank you !
TuxLyn 12y ago
Any plans on adding "English" and other languages to the site ? There is some very interesting features :)
- cm_1521 12y ago
  I am in charge of CSDN development team. We don't have a plan to make an English version yet as for now our focus is still on local open source community setup. Maybe one day when the situation is mature enough...
  - markvdb 12y ago
    Why not design internationalisation and localisation into it, and have contributors translate the ui? Shouldn't be too much of a problem. That might be an excellent way to demonstrate the power of FOSS to a small but growing community in China...
    - gbraad 12y ago
      +1. Too often organisations like CSDN, 51CTO, etc believe that the Chinese market is 'totally' different and therefore needs a different approach/method. They still need to realize it is not the message itself, but 'how' you tell the message. Side note: I have been closely involved in the Chinese Fedora community; assisting and streamlining procedures within the community and getting the community members closer aligned with the project and project goals. As a project we actually haven't treated Asia or China any different from other regions, such as South America, Europe, etc.

userbinator 12y ago

> Traditionally, China doesn't have a strong open source culture Not "legally/officially open source" at least, but for some other definitions of "open", the culture is definitely there. :-)

cm_1521 12y ago
It is partly true. That's why CSDN tried to adopt a different strategy other than Github. Quality and quantity of original open source projects in China are not good enough. As the 1st step, CSDN is trying to foster the culture. To have the IT giants, like Tencent onboard, is definitely helpful to attract more engineers to play some parts in the game.