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That already happened. The biggest computer manufacturer (Apple) doesn't sell a machine without an SSD.

by nardi 12y ago

redial 12y ago
http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac I think you are being a little premature. All iMacs have hard drives by default.
- wazoox 12y ago
  They are hybrid drives, though. The only pure HDD option seems to be the 3 TB drive.
  - redial 12y ago
    No, the default in every iMac is a 1TB Hard Drive. http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME086LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME086LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME087LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME087LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME088LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME088LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME089LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME089LL/A&ste...
    - wazoox 12y ago
      Weird, the product page seems to present the hybrid drive as the default option.
  - alexcroox 12y ago
    Definitely feeling the pain of the standard HDDs put in our 2013 27inch iMacs
konstruktor 12y ago
Interesting and eye-opening statement, but not entirely correct: The entry level iMac and Mac Mini SKUs have regular hard drives.
mcintyre1994 12y ago
Are Apple only the biggest if we include iPhones and/or iPads? I don't think anybody puts an HDD into a smartphone/tablet (it's surely all flash?) so it seems we'd have to limit the definition of computer to laptop/desktop to get anything interesting. Otherwise machines with an HDD are a minority already like you said.
- nardi 12y ago
  Apple is the largest laptop/desktop manufacturer.
  - mcintyre1994 12y ago
    Do you have a source at all for that? I've found multiple articles saying Lenovo overtook HP for that title around July 2013 but nothing naming Apple. According to [0] Apple weren't in the top six at that point. I did find articles from early 2012 calling Apple the biggest but that was of course based on iPads almost entirely. For example [1] has some figures from then, 5.2 million macs to over 10 million units each from HP, Lenovo and Dell. [0] http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23637017/hewlett-packard-loses-crown-top-personal-computer-manufacturer http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23637017/hewlett-packard-loses... [1] http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/24/apple_now_largest_computer_maker_sold_more_ipads_alone_than_hp_sold_pcs http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/24/apple_now_largest_...
  - mikhailt 12y ago
    No, they're not. They're the most profitable, not the same as the biggest. HP/Lenovo have the top two spots, they're selling tens of millions per quarter. Apple barely breaks 5 million. Apple doesn't have great business nor governmental support, which eliminates them from being considered at thousands of companies.
    - nardi 12y ago
      You're right. I was thinking of profit. Sorry for posting misinformation.
    - 12y ago
mikhailt 12y ago
Apple is not the biggest manufacturer, it's the most profitable but it is not the biggest one by far. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/09/apples-domestic-mac-sales-surge-285-as-overall-pc-market-shrinks-75 http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/09/apples-domestic-ma...

That already happened. The biggest computer manufacturer (Apple) doesn't sell a machine without an SSD.

by nardi 12y ago

That already happened. The biggest computer manufacturer (Apple) doesn't sell a machine without an SSD.

http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac I think you are being a little premature. All iMacs have hard drives by default.

wazoox 12y ago
They are hybrid drives, though. The only pure HDD option seems to be the 3 TB drive.
- redial 12y ago
  No, the default in every iMac is a 1TB Hard Drive. http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME086LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME086LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME087LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME087LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME088LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME088LL/A&ste... http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME089LL/A&step=config http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=ME089LL/A&ste...
  - wazoox 12y ago
    Weird, the product page seems to present the hybrid drive as the default option.
- alexcroox 12y ago
  Definitely feeling the pain of the standard HDDs put in our 2013 27inch iMacs

konstruktor 12y ago

Interesting and eye-opening statement, but not entirely correct: The entry level iMac and Mac Mini SKUs have regular hard drives.

mcintyre1994 12y ago

Are Apple only the biggest if we include iPhones and/or iPads? I don't think anybody puts an HDD into a smartphone/tablet (it's surely all flash?) so it seems we'd have to limit the definition of computer to laptop/desktop to get anything interesting. Otherwise machines with an HDD are a minority already like you said.

nardi 12y ago
Apple is the largest laptop/desktop manufacturer.
- mcintyre1994 12y ago
  Do you have a source at all for that? I've found multiple articles saying Lenovo overtook HP for that title around July 2013 but nothing naming Apple. According to [0] Apple weren't in the top six at that point. I did find articles from early 2012 calling Apple the biggest but that was of course based on iPads almost entirely. For example [1] has some figures from then, 5.2 million macs to over 10 million units each from HP, Lenovo and Dell. [0] http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23637017/hewlett-packard-loses-crown-top-personal-computer-manufacturer http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23637017/hewlett-packard-loses... [1] http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/24/apple_now_largest_computer_maker_sold_more_ipads_alone_than_hp_sold_pcs http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/24/apple_now_largest_...
- mikhailt 12y ago
  No, they're not. They're the most profitable, not the same as the biggest. HP/Lenovo have the top two spots, they're selling tens of millions per quarter. Apple barely breaks 5 million. Apple doesn't have great business nor governmental support, which eliminates them from being considered at thousands of companies.
  - nardi 12y ago
    You're right. I was thinking of profit. Sorry for posting misinformation.
  - 12y ago

mikhailt 12y ago

Apple is not the biggest manufacturer, it's the most profitable but it is not the biggest one by far. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/09/apples-domestic-mac-sales-surge-285-as-overall-pc-market-shrinks-75 http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/09/apples-domestic-ma...