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Well, a fork isn't the same as a clone, so that is why there are different words. There is no pull request mechanism not tied to a site, unless you want to sen

by pekk 13y ago

Well, a fork isn't the same as a clone, so that is why there are different words. There is no pull request mechanism not tied to a site, unless you want to send an email with a public git URL yourself. Which you can still do, assuming the project you are working with has specified that. But why should you be able to dictate to other people that they do it this way? Github gives you the public URL, if you want it to, and lots of people do. Hosting your own source repository also has unknown security, privacy and reliability implications. (Or known ones that are often not very good) It doesn't really matter to Github users if you don't want to use Github. Doesn't make a lot of sense that you would decline to make bug reports just because the project used Github. That sounds like you are boycotting those projects for some moral reason.

Silhouette 13y ago
Well, a fork isn't the same as a clone, so that is why there are different words. Perhaps unintentionally, I think you have just made my first point better than anything I wrote before. But why should you be able to dictate to other people that they do it this way? I wouldn't presume to dictate anything to anyone. I'm just explaining why I find it frustrating that so many people now assume others will work their way, as if using GitHub is some sort of universal norm. Hosting your own source repository also has unknown security, privacy and reliability implications. So the cloud guys keep saying. And yet we keep hearing about downtime and security breaches in cloud services, while the servers and normal Git repos I use regularly all seem to work just fine. I guess the guys running all those projects must be some kind of sysadmin demigods or something. It doesn't really matter to Github users if you don't want to use Github. It does if they want me (or anyone with similar feelings; let's not make this personal) to contribute to their projects. Doesn't make a lot of sense that you would decline to make bug reports just because the project used Github. I don't. I decline to make bug reports when making the bug report requires the use of GitHub, which is probably a more dangerous trend that I have observed with increasing frequency in recent months. That sounds like you are boycotting those projects for some moral reason. I have no idea where you got that from. I'm not "boycotting" those projects at all. But since I can't create a free GitHub account just to contribute to them without affecting anything else I might do there, and since participating via GitHub is significantly more hassle than contributing to other projects I have supported in various ways, I choose to spend my available time where I can help other projects more efficiently.

by pekk 13y ago

Silhouette 13y ago

Well, a fork isn't the same as a clone, so that is why there are different words. Perhaps unintentionally, I think you have just made my first point better than anything I wrote before. But why should you be able to dictate to other people that they do it this way? I wouldn't presume to dictate anything to anyone. I'm just explaining why I find it frustrating that so many people now assume others will work their way, as if using GitHub is some sort of universal norm. Hosting your own source repository also has unknown security, privacy and reliability implications. So the cloud guys keep saying. And yet we keep hearing about downtime and security breaches in cloud services, while the servers and normal Git repos I use regularly all seem to work just fine. I guess the guys running all those projects must be some kind of sysadmin demigods or something. It doesn't really matter to Github users if you don't want to use Github. It does if they want me (or anyone with similar feelings; let's not make this personal) to contribute to their projects. Doesn't make a lot of sense that you would decline to make bug reports just because the project used Github. I don't. I decline to make bug reports when making the bug report requires the use of GitHub, which is probably a more dangerous trend that I have observed with increasing frequency in recent months. That sounds like you are boycotting those projects for some moral reason. I have no idea where you got that from. I'm not "boycotting" those projects at all. But since I can't create a free GitHub account just to contribute to them without affecting anything else I might do there, and since participating via GitHub is significantly more hassle than contributing to other projects I have supported in various ways, I choose to spend my available time where I can help other projects more efficiently.