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What is the end goal for humans? Floating through space with near unlimited computing power seeding planets? Will we keep our human bodies and enjoy the simpl

by dm2 12y ago

What is the end goal for humans? Floating through space with near unlimited computing power seeding planets? Will we keep our human bodies and enjoy the simplicity of living while machines build us giant (on scales we can barely fathom) structures in space? Will we have to teach machines the value of life and why they shouldn't take it? It would be relatively simple to teach a machine about living. Humans don't really have persistent memory when turned off, humans only have RAM, if you remove the power source, our RAM gets cleared and we no longer exist. I think a computer could fairly easily understand that. Will advanced AI machines or human/machine hybrids instantly understand that war and violence is harmful and pointless? What would the goals of an AI system be? To grow? To help humanity? To ensure it's own survival? To colonize other worlds? To experiment, invent, and build? I'd be very interested in listening in on the AI meetings at Google that Kurzweil is involved in, I'm sure they're fascinating. I can't imagine having two brains hooked up to myself or having a secondary computing device attached to my brain, would it be information overload? Will humans ever be able to near instantly learn things? What happens when multiple human brains connect to the same network? Would we be essentially one organism?

icebraining 12y ago
It's funny that your explanation by analogy of death rests on the assumption the machines already understand how themselves work. There's really no reason why that should be case.
- dm2 12y ago
  My definition of AI was based on human-like intelligence. I see your point that AI won't necessarily have human-like intelligence but could have something completely different, something that my puny human brain can't even comprehend. Then again, if an AI system can't understand how itself works, is it really intelligent? I don't know the answer to any of these questions. I'm just asking them in effort to help myself try to understand technology and AI. Maybe simple curiosity and the ability to learn and retain data is the key to AI. Will the first generation of true AI be like a simple human child or a god-like "being"? Why even bother making pure AI systems when we are so close to BCIs? Why not just take recently deceased people, keep the brain alive, and attach a computer system to it?
  - jsmcgd 12y ago
    You've posed some interesting questions. > Then again, if an AI system can't understand how itself works, is it really intelligent? This question is particularly interesting as it can be applied to us as well.
    - ajbetteridge 12y ago
      Indeed. If a human baby can't identify that it's hand are in fact it's own hands is it intelligent by any reasonable standard? I'd say no. So couldn't this be how a machine AI begins it's own process of self awareness, then proceed to understand it's own surroundings and it's own sensors?

by dm2 12y ago

icebraining 12y ago

It's funny that your explanation by analogy of death rests on the assumption the machines already understand how themselves work. There's really no reason why that should be case.

dm2 12y ago
My definition of AI was based on human-like intelligence. I see your point that AI won't necessarily have human-like intelligence but could have something completely different, something that my puny human brain can't even comprehend. Then again, if an AI system can't understand how itself works, is it really intelligent? I don't know the answer to any of these questions. I'm just asking them in effort to help myself try to understand technology and AI. Maybe simple curiosity and the ability to learn and retain data is the key to AI. Will the first generation of true AI be like a simple human child or a god-like "being"? Why even bother making pure AI systems when we are so close to BCIs? Why not just take recently deceased people, keep the brain alive, and attach a computer system to it?
- jsmcgd 12y ago
  You've posed some interesting questions. > Then again, if an AI system can't understand how itself works, is it really intelligent? This question is particularly interesting as it can be applied to us as well.
  - ajbetteridge 12y ago
    Indeed. If a human baby can't identify that it's hand are in fact it's own hands is it intelligent by any reasonable standard? I'd say no. So couldn't this be how a machine AI begins it's own process of self awareness, then proceed to understand it's own surroundings and it's own sensors?