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You would like to protect the benefits you get from being far more privileged than people in other countries.
by ronaldx 12y ago
You would like to protect the benefits you get from being far more privileged than people in other countries.
- jiggy2011 12y agoWho wouldn't?
- lotsofmangos 12y agoAnyone who is aware that the economy is not a zero-sum game.
- jiggy2011 12y agoBut nobody really wants to lose anything, even if the gain on the other side is greater than their loss.
- lotsofmangos 12y agoI don't think that people in general have any idea of what would actually cause them a loss. I'm in the UK and we have UKIP getting popularity, but if they implemented their migration policy it would utterly destroy the UK economy for one fundamental reason that nobody seems to consider. There are more UK nationals who have migrated and are working abroad than foreign nationals working in the UK. And in total, the UK government thinks there are around 13,115,406 people outside the UK who can be classed as British national community ( From Hansard, bottom of the page - http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/vo060322/text/60322w15.htm http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/v... ). If the UK implemented a tit for tat migration policy with the rest of the world, then it would actually have to accept more migration than it currently does and if it just blocked migration altogether and threw people out, well then other countries would be very likely to return the favour and the UK would see several million new workers arriving in the country, all with fantastic global experience, full immediate rights to work and benefits, and excellent english. But still, UKIP is popular, and people who don't want to lose anything are trying as hard as they can to shoot off their own foot with a ballot.
- jiggy2011 12y agoI'm not sure, many of the UK citizens working abroad are probably workers with specific skills who would get visas regardless of the EU. I doubt other countries would force these people out to spite us because we no longer accept eastern europeans who work at costa coffee.
- lotsofmangos 12y agoDon't you think the visas would go to people from countries with less stupid immigration rules? The UK is hardly the only source of educated labour. Also, there are a hell of a lot of people from the UK who work round the world doing jobs like dishwashing and wouldn't be able to afford to travel if they didn't.
- jiggy2011 12y agoThe Visas go to whoever has the skills required by the particular economy, the country of origin is less important. Visas for gap-year type travellers are less common and usually very time limited.
- lotsofmangos 12y agoVisa policy for most countries varies wildly according to country of origin. Most countries operate a tiered approach to visa allocation and often heavily restrict applicants from certain countries if they have disagreements with them. Is funny that while people from abroad are painted as devious manipulative devils when they are trying to enter the country, they suddenly get portrayed as shining beacons of angelic forgiveness when it comes to the subject of what would happen to all of the British working abroad if we shut our borders.
- personlurking 12y agoI would state it differently. I'd like to protect the price generally paid for certain types of work in my country. Even if that price is low for my country (but higher in others), I'd still hope to be able to compete with others in my country. Privilege doesn't necessarily enter into it.
- ronaldx 12y agoAnd by "certain types of work", I guess that you mean services that you get paid for, but not goods that you have to pay for?