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Very popular tiling window manager: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad

by gamegoblin 13y ago

jonathansizz 13y ago
Very popular? If you insist.
- pcmonk 13y ago
  In the world of tiling window managers, there are a few well-known names. Xmonad is one of them.
  - jonathansizz 13y ago
    And are any tiling window managers popular? Didn't think so.
    - sgeisenh 13y ago
      Check out /r/unixporn. There are some excellent setups in there. I think the lack of a standout tiling window manager might be the result of the quantity of excellent WMs in existence. Regardless, if you've never had an experience using a tiling window manager, I would highly recommend it. Once you get past a certain threshold, your productivity skyrockets!
      - lispm 13y ago
        Sure, my Symbolics Lisp Machine had a tiling window manager 30 years ago. Today I could use Stumpwm, written in Common Lisp. It's just that I don't use X that much...
  - Pacabel 13y ago
    I think that's backing up the point he's making, though. When considering the big picture, tiling window managers are quite minor and relatively infrequently used. Having a small amount of influence within a rather obscure field ends up translating to basically no importance in practice. There are many examples of very large and critical software systems implemented in languages like C, C++, Java, C#, Perl, Python, Ruby, and others. We just don't see anything like this when it comes to Haskell, however. The examples that do exist are quite minor in reality, and this will naturally make some people skeptical about Haskell's practicality.
    - chrisdone 13y ago
      That kind of stuff just takes a bit of time. It's kind of irrelevant to the language itself. Python and Ruby didn't hit the mainstream until the 2000's, despite being invented in the 90's. C# and Java both have huge company backing, and C and C++ have had traction since the 80's and earlier. And we all know sysadmins love Perl. Haskell's popularity is only a recent thing. It only kicked off with a few proper books in the past few years.
      - Pacabel 13y ago
        I wouldn't exactly call Haskell "popular". It isn't as obscure as some programming languages, but realistically, it sees comparatively little use in practice. And Haskell predates Python, Ruby, JavaScript, Java and C#. It has had a very long time to become more widely used, yet we just haven't seen this happen. It's not like people don't know about it; many students, academics and practitioners have been exposed to it for years now, and it does get a fair amount of hype for a language that has experienced limited use in practice. I just don't think it offers enough benefit for the cost involved with learning and using it. If the balance were better, we'd see it being used. But that isn't the case, so it sees minimal usage.
  - lispm 13y ago
    Stumpwm is another. Which is written in Lisp.
lispm 13y ago
So Xmonad is running correctly after a compile? Google searches with Xmonad would then find no matches with Xmonad and crash or freeze?

Very popular tiling window manager: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad

jonathansizz 13y ago

Very popular? If you insist.

pcmonk 13y ago
In the world of tiling window managers, there are a few well-known names. Xmonad is one of them.
- jonathansizz 13y ago
  And are any tiling window managers popular? Didn't think so.
  - sgeisenh 13y ago
    Check out /r/unixporn. There are some excellent setups in there. I think the lack of a standout tiling window manager might be the result of the quantity of excellent WMs in existence. Regardless, if you've never had an experience using a tiling window manager, I would highly recommend it. Once you get past a certain threshold, your productivity skyrockets!
    - lispm 13y ago
      Sure, my Symbolics Lisp Machine had a tiling window manager 30 years ago. Today I could use Stumpwm, written in Common Lisp. It's just that I don't use X that much...
- Pacabel 13y ago
  I think that's backing up the point he's making, though. When considering the big picture, tiling window managers are quite minor and relatively infrequently used. Having a small amount of influence within a rather obscure field ends up translating to basically no importance in practice. There are many examples of very large and critical software systems implemented in languages like C, C++, Java, C#, Perl, Python, Ruby, and others. We just don't see anything like this when it comes to Haskell, however. The examples that do exist are quite minor in reality, and this will naturally make some people skeptical about Haskell's practicality.
  - chrisdone 13y ago
    That kind of stuff just takes a bit of time. It's kind of irrelevant to the language itself. Python and Ruby didn't hit the mainstream until the 2000's, despite being invented in the 90's. C# and Java both have huge company backing, and C and C++ have had traction since the 80's and earlier. And we all know sysadmins love Perl. Haskell's popularity is only a recent thing. It only kicked off with a few proper books in the past few years.
    - Pacabel 13y ago
      I wouldn't exactly call Haskell "popular". It isn't as obscure as some programming languages, but realistically, it sees comparatively little use in practice. And Haskell predates Python, Ruby, JavaScript, Java and C#. It has had a very long time to become more widely used, yet we just haven't seen this happen. It's not like people don't know about it; many students, academics and practitioners have been exposed to it for years now, and it does get a fair amount of hype for a language that has experienced limited use in practice. I just don't think it offers enough benefit for the cost involved with learning and using it. If the balance were better, we'd see it being used. But that isn't the case, so it sees minimal usage.
- lispm 13y ago
  Stumpwm is another. Which is written in Lisp.

lispm 13y ago

So Xmonad is running correctly after a compile? Google searches with Xmonad would then find no matches with Xmonad and crash or freeze?