Probably not in a restaurant, though. Dragging the subthread back on topic, while I don't doubt Ms. Roizen or anyone else who describes having encountered such

Probably not in a restaurant, though. Dragging the subthread back on topic, while I don't doubt Ms. Roizen or anyone else who describes having encountered such abhorrent behavior, it amazes me every time I hear about it, and not so much because it's sexual assault as because I have such a hard time believing any man, indeed anyone of any sex or gender, could be so incredibly déclassé. I don't know -- maybe it's because I'm gay, or because I gravitate toward the company of people who deport themselves with something which at least vaguely resembles good taste, or I don't know what all, but honestly? Who actually does something like that? Who can even contemplate doing something like that without shriveling in well-deserved shame?