> I wish I had EFF's clout behind my work too. Man, I'm sure that must be really frustrating. It looks like your tool takes a different strategy than EFF's and

> I wish I had EFF's clout behind my work too. Man, I'm sure that must be really frustrating. It looks like your tool takes a different strategy than EFF's and there will be room for both -- I hope you keep it up. As a general perspective (not just directed at you, gorhill), it's worth bearing in mind that the EFF has earned their clout by working hard and getting results since 1990 -- almost a quarter of a century. You can think of them like a startup founder who has a lot of money and connections to launch new companies, because she's been building winning companies for decades and built up those resources. For her, backing a new project means betting some of that capital. For you, starting on your own without that kind of track record means you'll have to hustle longer and harder to find success. This analogy is particularly helpful if you (again, not just gorhill) actually do want the EFF or a similar organization to back your project. That startup founder is going to be constantly getting pitches from people who want her time or attention or just money. The ones she'll want to help will be the ones she knows and trusts because they've helped her out before. That makes projects like this Badger thing a great opportunity to get involved with an organization -- they're asking for your help. It's a chance to prove you have the coding skills/social skills/enthusiasm/values/reliability/whatever that make you a good fit. Then when you're starting your own project, they'll be relatively likely to put some of their reputational capital behind it.