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The question is what Oracle would lose by licensing real Java to Google at reasonable conditions. Mobile non-Android Java is deader than dead.

• pjmlp 13y ago
  > Mobile non-Android Java is deader than dead. Lots of embedded devices make use of J2ME, e.g. cars, manufacturing, electricity monitoring...
  • thwarted 13y ago
    How many of those will get Java 8 updates?
• beat 13y ago
  The billionaires at WhatsApp beg to differ. They got very very rich from "mobile non-Android Java".
  • hatred 13y ago
    Isn't their stack based on Erlang or am I missing something ?
    • cgh 13y ago
      You're missing the client side. It runs on J2ME-powered feature phones.
      • krzyk 13y ago
        And on Android (and probably iPhones). Which version was first, J2ME or smartphone one?
• spullara 13y ago
  Oracle was offering licensing for "real Java" at around $1 per device. This was too high for Google that wanted to make it entirely free. Kind of silly, since Android hardware manufacturers pay much more than that to Microsoft in patent licenses.
  • jsight 13y ago
    It's unlikely that the patent licensing situation would have been different with Java ME. It is entirely likely that it would not have been completely open source due to Sun (and ultimately Oracle) restrictions on Java ME.