Really appreciate the insight, this is what I have found as well. Especially using intellij, it's still hard to beat. I'm always on the look out to use new stuf

Really appreciate the insight, this is what I have found as well. Especially using intellij, it's still hard to beat. I'm always on the look out to use new stuff, but I'd rather wait a bit.. If I go hybrid JVM, I will likely just use SBT instead.. I think I'll keep an eye on gradle and see if it matures though. One of the reasons I still use maven is like what you mentioned: the tooling, I don't find myself using xml most of the time (despite knowing it like the back of my hand anyways)