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Most URLs are human-readable enough that I think street addresses make a better analogy. Latitude/longitude would be more like IP addresses and HTTP headers. T

by kijin 13y ago

Most URLs are human-readable enough that I think street addresses make a better analogy. Latitude/longitude would be more like IP addresses and HTTP headers. They require some technical knowledge to use and understand, but they're still quite human-readable unlike raw GPS signals or ethernet frames. (As an aside, most GPS units also display the altitude. I live in a mountainous region, so I often make use of this figure.)

lmm 13y ago
> Most URLs are human-readable enough that I think street addresses make a better analogy. I'd like that to be true, but I think we lost that battle a long time ago. Google results aren't a readable URL; nor are products on Amazon or Ebay or anywhere else I can think of. Newspaper-type URLs are often "fake human-readable"; the URL is something like http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Found http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Found , but in fact http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Still-Missing http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Still-Missing will give you exactly the same story. Even HN stories aren't human-readable, just an opaque id number.
- kijin 13y ago
  I agree about Google and Amazon's long and cryptic query strings. But I don't think "fake human-readable" URLs break the analogy with physical addresses. There are many different ways of writing the same address: 987 Some Avenue West, Unit 123, Brooklyn, New York, NY 12345-6789 Unit 123, 987 W. Some Ave., New York 12345 123-987 Some Av W, NYC, NY Some are more correct than others, and there's probably a canonical version that USPS wants everyone to use. But at the end of the day, a letter addressed to any of the above will be delivered to the same apartment. And of course all the numbers above are "opaque id numbers".
  - lmm 13y ago
    If you meant to send a letter to "The Foundry, 28 Some Street" and instead put 26, the postman would probably deliver it to the right place. Not so with these fake human-readable URLs. And the numbers aren't just opaque identifiers (except for the zip), at least if you're walking down the street: you know that 28 is next to 26, opposite-ish 27, and halfway to 56. There's nothing that corresponds to walking along the street on a website.

by kijin 13y ago

lmm 13y ago

> Most URLs are human-readable enough that I think street addresses make a better analogy. I'd like that to be true, but I think we lost that battle a long time ago. Google results aren't a readable URL; nor are products on Amazon or Ebay or anywhere else I can think of. Newspaper-type URLs are often "fake human-readable"; the URL is something like http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Found http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Found , but in fact http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Still-Missing http://somepaper.com/12345-Local-Man-Still-Missing will give you exactly the same story. Even HN stories aren't human-readable, just an opaque id number.

kijin 13y ago
I agree about Google and Amazon's long and cryptic query strings. But I don't think "fake human-readable" URLs break the analogy with physical addresses. There are many different ways of writing the same address: 987 Some Avenue West, Unit 123, Brooklyn, New York, NY 12345-6789 Unit 123, 987 W. Some Ave., New York 12345 123-987 Some Av W, NYC, NY Some are more correct than others, and there's probably a canonical version that USPS wants everyone to use. But at the end of the day, a letter addressed to any of the above will be delivered to the same apartment. And of course all the numbers above are "opaque id numbers".
- lmm 13y ago
  If you meant to send a letter to "The Foundry, 28 Some Street" and instead put 26, the postman would probably deliver it to the right place. Not so with these fake human-readable URLs. And the numbers aren't just opaque identifiers (except for the zip), at least if you're walking down the street: you know that 28 is next to 26, opposite-ish 27, and halfway to 56. There's nothing that corresponds to walking along the street on a website.