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Is this true? I was always under the impression that meat was considerably more expensive than basic vegetarian food. I know some vegetables can be expensive bu

Is this true? I was always under the impression that meat was considerably more expensive than basic vegetarian food. I know some vegetables can be expensive but I'm pretty sure cereals and pulses are cheaper than any meat.

qwerta 12y ago
I live in Europe, so I can not really say for US. For 1 burger you need like 4 pounds of vegs, so the meat is cheaper here.
- fred_durst 12y ago
  I think there might be a misunderstanding about a typical vegetarian or vegan diet. Do you believe that most vegetarians and vegans eat primarily vegetables like broccoli and cabbage? Myself and others I know tend to eat a large amount of beans, grains and root vegetables as this is typically necessary to get the required daily amounts of protein and calories.
  - lsdafjklsd 12y ago
    I'm vegan and I eat super cheap. Lentils / black beans in a soup or burrito gets you very far. My luxury meal items are fresh bread or tortillas.
- steveridout 12y ago
  I don't think you're doing a fair comparison, which would mean comparing the cheapest meat with the cheapest non-meat foods. Of course mince meat is cheaper per calorie than lettuce, it's probably cheaper than tomatoes, but it's not cheaper than rice or lentils. BTW - I live in Europe too.
  - qwerta 12y ago
    Again, I am arguing against being EXCLUSIVELY vegetarian, I also think rice potatoes etc are good value for the money. Back in my old days in post communist Europe, the cheapest eatable meat was horse (kind of like a beef). Most vegetables were imported (and expensive) or scarce outside of season (and expensive) . People usually loaded their cellars with 1000 pounds of vegs for winter, but students did not had this option.
- dannypgh 12y ago
  Given energy constraints and the economics of things, meat should be more expensive everywhere. But the US also has massive agriculture subsidies, so what determines the cost of food here is Congress more than any market. Dried beans (my favorite) tend to be much cheaper than just about any other source of protein, but I don't think I've ever seen tofu being sold for less than hamburger. Ground meat in this country tends to be really cheap, thanks to agricultural subsidies, filler, "pink slime" and the like.
- gabemart 12y ago
  > For 1 burger you need like 4 pounds of vegs In terms of calories, this is technically correct, but the metric of calories is not at all useful in a first-world context. At my local market, £1 gets you about 10,000 kcals of rice or pasta. In other words, any budget above $1 / £1 per day will be able to provide plenty of kcals. Kcals are not the problem. What matters are the other things the body needs. I eat vegetables to provide fiber, vitamins and phytonutrients. I eat meat to provide protein and certain types of fat. In this regard, they're not fungible, because leafy green vegetables are a poor source of protein and meat is a poor source of phytonutrients.
voidlogic 12y ago
This isn't always true, you can buy packs of small porkchops that work out to be about 1.25 per chop. While this book is interesting it seems to go to great lengths to create new dishes when many compatible traditional dishes exist. For example you can make Schnitzel, Spaetzle, Blaukraut and Brussel sprouts for 5 for around $10.

qwerta 12y ago

I live in Europe, so I can not really say for US. For 1 burger you need like 4 pounds of vegs, so the meat is cheaper here.

fred_durst 12y ago
I think there might be a misunderstanding about a typical vegetarian or vegan diet. Do you believe that most vegetarians and vegans eat primarily vegetables like broccoli and cabbage? Myself and others I know tend to eat a large amount of beans, grains and root vegetables as this is typically necessary to get the required daily amounts of protein and calories.
- lsdafjklsd 12y ago
  I'm vegan and I eat super cheap. Lentils / black beans in a soup or burrito gets you very far. My luxury meal items are fresh bread or tortillas.
steveridout 12y ago
I don't think you're doing a fair comparison, which would mean comparing the cheapest meat with the cheapest non-meat foods. Of course mince meat is cheaper per calorie than lettuce, it's probably cheaper than tomatoes, but it's not cheaper than rice or lentils. BTW - I live in Europe too.
- qwerta 12y ago
  Again, I am arguing against being EXCLUSIVELY vegetarian, I also think rice potatoes etc are good value for the money. Back in my old days in post communist Europe, the cheapest eatable meat was horse (kind of like a beef). Most vegetables were imported (and expensive) or scarce outside of season (and expensive) . People usually loaded their cellars with 1000 pounds of vegs for winter, but students did not had this option.
dannypgh 12y ago
Given energy constraints and the economics of things, meat should be more expensive everywhere. But the US also has massive agriculture subsidies, so what determines the cost of food here is Congress more than any market. Dried beans (my favorite) tend to be much cheaper than just about any other source of protein, but I don't think I've ever seen tofu being sold for less than hamburger. Ground meat in this country tends to be really cheap, thanks to agricultural subsidies, filler, "pink slime" and the like.
gabemart 12y ago
> For 1 burger you need like 4 pounds of vegs In terms of calories, this is technically correct, but the metric of calories is not at all useful in a first-world context. At my local market, £1 gets you about 10,000 kcals of rice or pasta. In other words, any budget above $1 / £1 per day will be able to provide plenty of kcals. Kcals are not the problem. What matters are the other things the body needs. I eat vegetables to provide fiber, vitamins and phytonutrients. I eat meat to provide protein and certain types of fat. In this regard, they're not fungible, because leafy green vegetables are a poor source of protein and meat is a poor source of phytonutrients.

voidlogic 12y ago

This isn't always true, you can buy packs of small porkchops that work out to be about 1.25 per chop. While this book is interesting it seems to go to great lengths to create new dishes when many compatible traditional dishes exist. For example you can make Schnitzel, Spaetzle, Blaukraut and Brussel sprouts for 5 for around $10.