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It's a voluntary poll, hence not reliable. I would never trust an HN poll for something as significant as this. If the results were true it would be worrying, b
by msvan 12y ago
It's a voluntary poll, hence not reliable. I would never trust an HN poll for something as significant as this. If the results were true it would be worrying, but we need much stronger evidence than this.
- sillysaurus3 12y agoHmm... possibly. It seems strange that this particular poll would attract so many trolls, though. Surely there are some troll results, but most of the results are showing that people are getting banned within 4 days of payout. As long as >75% of participants are honest voters, then it doesn't seem like the trolls could skew the results to the extent that we're seeing.
- robryk 12y agoThere may be a selection bias too: people who were banned just before payout may be more likely to respond to the poll.
- seacious 12y agoPeople who had their account banned in the last few days before payment may be more likely to feel victimized, and therefore more likely to answer a poll to express their grievance.
- sillysaurus3 12y agoThat's probably true, and in hindsight it's exactly why polls (and statistics in general) are so difficult. Thank you (and also robryk) for pointing that out!
- ams6110 12y agoIt's why voluntary polls are meaningless. A true random poll would not have this bias.
- panon 12y agoPeople who were banned are probably pissed off and chose 4days.
- iambateman 12y agoOutside of having actual proof of suspension, I'd view 80% of these as troll results. finding that users with suspended accounts in an hour is unlikely.
- hosay123 12y agoGoing by http://ycombinator.com/newsnews.html http://ycombinator.com/newsnews.html HN was seeing 120k uniques as of 2011. This post has been up for an hour, and attracted 105 poll respondents. (120k / 24) is 5000 users, 105 respondents represents about 2% of that. So either 2% of all HN readers have had their AdSense account banned, or the poll results are a bit noisy :) (Obviously this is extremely rough math, but allowing for a huge error margin, 0.5% of HN readers would still seem too high, at least to me) On saying that, AdSense is an enormous program
- sillysaurus3 12y agoHN was seeing 120k uniques as of 2011. This post has been up for an hour, and attracted 105 poll respondents. (120k / 24) is 5000 users, 105 respondents represents about 2% of that. Actually, HN has grown exponentially since 2011. You'll have to extrapolate this chart: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5253773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5253773 Also, the traffic fluctuates depending on which part of the day you measure. There are comparatively few people here during 3AM - 7AM in the US.
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- rickdale 12y agoThats true if the results are close, but when one of the options clearly trumps the rest, even assuming there is some fraud ,a disturbing pattern emerges.