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In the *nix world, when something gets abandoned people are pretty quick to move on. I've been using tmux for a long time as well and see no need to even consi

by skrowl 13y ago

In the *nix world, when something gets abandoned people are pretty quick to move on. I've been using tmux for a long time as well and see no need to even consider going back to screen.

pilif 13y ago
screen supports serial lines and zmodem. While that might not be something you'd use a lot these days, it's very handy when dealing with equipment from the stone-age. Thankfully though, I can have both screen and tmux on my machine, so may day-to-day tool is tmux and screen gets used whenever I need a time machine (which still happens at times)
- raimue 13y ago
  Couldn't you just use minicom, picocom, or some similar tool inside tmux? Is there a unique feature of screen that is not satisfied by these standalone alternatives? I am curious, as for me this setup is good enough to see debug messages on the serial console.
  - pilif 13y ago
    The reason why I prefer screen over minicom is that minicom has a lot of features related to dialling modems and accessing mailboxes, none of which is relevant to the case of setting up equipment. A quick screen /dev/ttyS0 115200 beats writing a configuration file, learning another text based stateful UI and working around various instances of your tool trying to be helpful and helping you dialling a modem. Keep in mind that this could be related to the default minicom config my distro shipped back when I was "evaluating" my options, but because screen works totally well for my cases, I've had since zero motivation to go back and give minicom another try.
    - duskwuff 13y ago
      You might want to give picocom a try. Equivalent command line is: picocom -b 115200 /dev/ttyS0 It's also got a lot of serial-specific features closer to hand, like changing the baud rate, sending a break, toggling RTS/CTS, etc.
      - mzs 13y ago
        Or tip or cu too.
- vdm 13y ago
  cu (from Taylor UUCP) with lrzsz. http://wiki.soekris.info/Updating_Bios http://wiki.soekris.info/Updating_Bios
  - voltagex_ 13y ago
    I have a distinct memory of being unable to quit cu. Was I just missing the SIGHUP command?

by skrowl 13y ago

In the *nix world, when something gets abandoned people are pretty quick to move on. I've been using tmux for a long time as well and see no need to even consider going back to screen.

pilif 13y ago

screen supports serial lines and zmodem. While that might not be something you'd use a lot these days, it's very handy when dealing with equipment from the stone-age. Thankfully though, I can have both screen and tmux on my machine, so may day-to-day tool is tmux and screen gets used whenever I need a time machine (which still happens at times)

raimue 13y ago
Couldn't you just use minicom, picocom, or some similar tool inside tmux? Is there a unique feature of screen that is not satisfied by these standalone alternatives? I am curious, as for me this setup is good enough to see debug messages on the serial console.
- pilif 13y ago
  The reason why I prefer screen over minicom is that minicom has a lot of features related to dialling modems and accessing mailboxes, none of which is relevant to the case of setting up equipment. A quick screen /dev/ttyS0 115200 beats writing a configuration file, learning another text based stateful UI and working around various instances of your tool trying to be helpful and helping you dialling a modem. Keep in mind that this could be related to the default minicom config my distro shipped back when I was "evaluating" my options, but because screen works totally well for my cases, I've had since zero motivation to go back and give minicom another try.
  - duskwuff 13y ago
    You might want to give picocom a try. Equivalent command line is: picocom -b 115200 /dev/ttyS0 It's also got a lot of serial-specific features closer to hand, like changing the baud rate, sending a break, toggling RTS/CTS, etc.
    - mzs 13y ago
      Or tip or cu too.
vdm 13y ago
cu (from Taylor UUCP) with lrzsz. http://wiki.soekris.info/Updating_Bios http://wiki.soekris.info/Updating_Bios
- voltagex_ 13y ago
  I have a distinct memory of being unable to quit cu. Was I just missing the SIGHUP command?