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> HN should ban new users from moderating for a year. You actually need quite a bit of karma (maybe 500?) on Hacker News before you can downvote things, so any

by mccr8 12y ago

> HN should ban new users from moderating for a year. You actually need quite a bit of karma (maybe 500?) on Hacker News before you can downvote things, so anybody downvoting you can't be that new of a user.

Jtsummers 12y ago
> so anybody downvoting you can't be that new of a user. IME, you can earn a lot of karma quickly with links. I'd say 1/3 of my karma came from links, and initially that's what pushed me over the top. So they're most likely not new users, but anyone with a month of submissions could have crossed that threshold. It makes me wonder if the two karmas, and the features that get enabled, should be separate things.
nailer 12y ago
Then I'm baffled. There seems to be a recent trend where non controversial things: - the documentation and character support issues can be 'bugs' - defaults that fit most users are good - reminding someone being personal of the HN guidelines ...get moderated up, then down to -3 or -4, then back up to 1 again.
- chc 12y ago
  I think it's that your response sounded like a lazy dismissal. Reasonable defaults are good, yes. That's pretty uncontroversial. But nobody has established that Firefox's behavior is less reasonable than the alternative — for example, the comment you were replying to noted that both approaches have their fans — so your out-of-hand rejection on behalf of "users-on-street" sounded imperious.
  - nailer 12y ago
    The only reason I didn't question the behaviour is that the parent didn't either: they just mentioned that most users could customise. Which, as mentioned, they wouldn't want to do. Noticing the folk in the conversation there's lots of newish accounts, and some are replying before they've actually read what they're replying to. Downmods for 'I disagree' are more popular now as well.

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> HN should ban new users from moderating for a year. You actually need quite a bit of karma (maybe 500?) on Hacker News before you can downvote things, so any

by mccr8 12y ago

Jtsummers 12y ago
> so anybody downvoting you can't be that new of a user. IME, you can earn a lot of karma quickly with links. I'd say 1/3 of my karma came from links, and initially that's what pushed me over the top. So they're most likely not new users, but anyone with a month of submissions could have crossed that threshold. It makes me wonder if the two karmas, and the features that get enabled, should be separate things.
nailer 12y ago
Then I'm baffled. There seems to be a recent trend where non controversial things: - the documentation and character support issues can be 'bugs' - defaults that fit most users are good - reminding someone being personal of the HN guidelines ...get moderated up, then down to -3 or -4, then back up to 1 again.
- chc 12y ago
  I think it's that your response sounded like a lazy dismissal. Reasonable defaults are good, yes. That's pretty uncontroversial. But nobody has established that Firefox's behavior is less reasonable than the alternative — for example, the comment you were replying to noted that both approaches have their fans — so your out-of-hand rejection on behalf of "users-on-street" sounded imperious.
  - nailer 12y ago
    The only reason I didn't question the behaviour is that the parent didn't either: they just mentioned that most users could customise. Which, as mentioned, they wouldn't want to do. Noticing the folk in the conversation there's lots of newish accounts, and some are replying before they've actually read what they're replying to. Downmods for 'I disagree' are more popular now as well.