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My point is that "hard to hire" implies more jobs than candidates, whereas "hard to find jobs" implies more candidates than jobs. They can't both be true. You c

My point is that "hard to hire" implies more jobs than candidates, whereas "hard to find jobs" implies more candidates than jobs. They can't both be true. You can say things like "there are few candidates" or "there are few jobs" in an absolute sense, by comparison to other languages, but that actually isn't very relevant. This is an oversimplified model because it doesn't take into account engineer skill level, which actually does seem to be the primary problem. Companies want skilled engineers, but it's hard to become skilled without having a job in the language first. So we end up with several companies trying to hire seniors, and several juniors looking for jobs.

taeric 12y ago
Both "hard to hire" and "hard to find jobs" are satisfied by a disjoint set of job locations to candidate locations. That is, there could be plenty of X jobs in City Y, but that does little for the X candidate in Z city. Flip candidate/job as desired.
- nbouscal 12y ago
  That's true, and there does seem to be a disproportionate number of Haskell jobs in Singapore, but overall I don't think it has a huge effect.
  - taeric 12y ago
    More likely you are just seeing a fairly common network effect, where once you are in it is easy to see many connections. So, if there are some fairly good quantitative treatments of this, I'd be interested. I suspect it isn't too shocking. Probably more than the parent poster and friends think. Probably less than you do. :)
    - sanderjd 12y ago
      I actually really don't have much of a hypothesis at all. I asked my original question out of pure curiosity, and my reply was along the lines of it seeming very plausible for there to be both a shortage of candidates to hire and a shortage of companies hiring. But I also think the opposite is plausible. I think so far the most specific answer to my initial question of "is it easy to find Haskell work?" is "yes, in Singapore it is".

taeric 12y ago

Both "hard to hire" and "hard to find jobs" are satisfied by a disjoint set of job locations to candidate locations. That is, there could be plenty of X jobs in City Y, but that does little for the X candidate in Z city. Flip candidate/job as desired.

nbouscal 12y ago
That's true, and there does seem to be a disproportionate number of Haskell jobs in Singapore, but overall I don't think it has a huge effect.
- taeric 12y ago
  More likely you are just seeing a fairly common network effect, where once you are in it is easy to see many connections. So, if there are some fairly good quantitative treatments of this, I'd be interested. I suspect it isn't too shocking. Probably more than the parent poster and friends think. Probably less than you do. :)
  - sanderjd 12y ago
    I actually really don't have much of a hypothesis at all. I asked my original question out of pure curiosity, and my reply was along the lines of it seeming very plausible for there to be both a shortage of candidates to hire and a shortage of companies hiring. But I also think the opposite is plausible. I think so far the most specific answer to my initial question of "is it easy to find Haskell work?" is "yes, in Singapore it is".