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The Customize mode seems fairly flexible, for shuffling things between the three fixed-position bars, ie. the menu, navigation and bookmarks bars (probably the

The Customize mode seems fairly flexible, for shuffling things between the three fixed-position bars, ie. the menu, navigation and bookmarks bars (probably the tab bar as well though I don't use tabs myself). I wonder why you can't just add new blank bars, at either the top or bottom, to fill up to your heart's content with that same Customize mode. That would undo most of the need for things like Status-4-Evar. This hasn't changed in version 29, by the way. 'Customize' in version 28 also let you juggle controls around any of the menu, navigation, bookmarks or add-on bars pretty generically. In fact, for all the fanfare about how revolutionary a change this new UI is, the only real functional difference in it I can see between 28 and 29 is the removal of the add-on bar, ie. the only one of the bars whose fixed position happened to be at the bottom, rather than the top. (Of course I don't really believe that this release is specifically intended to troll people who like having some controls at the bottom of their screen, but I must admit that if you did want to do that, then this would be a good way to do it. I'm sticking with 28 until Status-4-Evar catches up. Also thanks for the suggestion of the "Addon Bar" extension elsewhere in the thread, seen and noted.)

gagege 12y ago
I'm very curious about your statement that you don't use tabs. Why not? Do you really only ever have one page open at once?
- CmdrKrool 12y ago
  I open everything in a new window, and juggle windows at the desktop level with the help of a nifty Alt+Tab enhancer. I know there's a use case for using seperate windows to group tabs by topic, but I don't like having that organization forced on me. Also, I don't use a tiling window manager, but they tend to have their own ways of dealing with large numbers of windows, I hear.
insertnickname 12y ago
Actually, they also removed the ability to disable the navigation bar, which is very annoying for me because I use Vimperator. It can be removed by installing an extension, but I don't understand why they would remove this functionality.
- CmdrKrool 12y ago
  You're right, and having read some other posts in this thread (CompuHacker) and taken another look, I see that the new "Customize" is more diminished in the new version than I previously made out. They're going more towards a fixed default look with permanently fused-together buttons and the like, and this kind of customization further pushed out to extensions.
  - supergauntlet 12y ago
    I wonder if they'll add it back in time? Though I suppose if it's expendable then it's not a huge deal.
- mbel 12y ago
  I was upset about this too, but fortunately there is a way around this using the Vimperator itself: :set gui=nonavigation
wjoe 12y ago
There's already a newer version with Status-4-Evar which works with FF29, and adds a customizable bar back to the bottom of the screen. It's somewhat hidden away and not the 'stable' version yet, but it's working fine for me - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...

gagege 12y ago

I'm very curious about your statement that you don't use tabs. Why not? Do you really only ever have one page open at once?

CmdrKrool 12y ago
I open everything in a new window, and juggle windows at the desktop level with the help of a nifty Alt+Tab enhancer. I know there's a use case for using seperate windows to group tabs by topic, but I don't like having that organization forced on me. Also, I don't use a tiling window manager, but they tend to have their own ways of dealing with large numbers of windows, I hear.

insertnickname 12y ago

Actually, they also removed the ability to disable the navigation bar, which is very annoying for me because I use Vimperator. It can be removed by installing an extension, but I don't understand why they would remove this functionality.

CmdrKrool 12y ago
You're right, and having read some other posts in this thread (CompuHacker) and taken another look, I see that the new "Customize" is more diminished in the new version than I previously made out. They're going more towards a fixed default look with permanently fused-together buttons and the like, and this kind of customization further pushed out to extensions.
- supergauntlet 12y ago
  I wonder if they'll add it back in time? Though I suppose if it's expendable then it's not a huge deal.
mbel 12y ago
I was upset about this too, but fortunately there is a way around this using the Vimperator itself: :set gui=nonavigation

wjoe 12y ago

There's already a newer version with Status-4-Evar which works with FF29, and adds a customizable bar back to the bottom of the screen. It's somewhat hidden away and not the 'stable' version yet, but it's working fine for me - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar/versions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...