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These people behind Australis are brave, competent and passionate. It shows in the remarkable experience they've built. I am a nightly user and I got to see the

by yati 12y ago

These people behind Australis are brave, competent and passionate. It shows in the remarkable experience they've built. I am a nightly user and I got to see these changes land one at a time. Hugs and cheers:)

IvyMike 12y ago
> brave I am not trying to be snarky, but to me a lot of the new UI is "oh, they made it look more like Chrome". I am kind of surprised to hear the word "brave" to describe that.
- seba_dos1 12y ago
  Work on this UI started long before Chrome. That's Chrome that looks like Firefox mockups, not the other way.
  - vanderZwan 12y ago
    Interesting, got a source for that?
  - zethraeus 12y ago
    Can you source this from public docs somewhere? It's interesting and I'd love to compare the early mockups with early chrome.
    - Excavator 12y ago
      Not OP but earliest concepts I know of are these¹ from 2011. 1: http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-presentation.html http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-pre...
    - IvyMike 12y ago
      Here's are some pre-release screenshots of Chrome from 2008. http://mikemacd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/google-chrome-screenshots/ http://mikemacd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/google-chrome-scree...
- yati 12y ago
  There are a lot of people who initially did not like the curved tabs and other visual design changes (e.g., the bookmark star is no longer in the 'awesome bar'). It is IMO brave for the designers to take a stand for the users when redesigning a widely used product. I have the same feelings for the GNOME project.
  - davb 12y ago
    > There are a lot of people who initially did not like ... > ... take a stand for the user ... These statements seem at odds. I'm all for change when there's a clear need for it, but when it's done just to keep up with Chrome's aesthetic, it can alienate an existing userbase. If I wanted Chrome, I'd be using Chrome. The reason I stuck with Firefox for so long was the configurability. However, now when a settings is removed or dumbed down the default stance on BugZilla is "just install an addon".
    - 51Cards 12y ago
      Very much agree with this comment. I'll be sticking to v28 for now and using the Classic Theme restorer to restore the lost features when I have to move up. Sadly, this will become the fourth extension I run to restore features Firefox has removed.
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brazzy 12y ago
They are useless idiots whom I hate with a passion for their user-hostile self-gratification. The design was just fine, so leave it the fuck alone!
- yati 12y ago
  You are not bringing anything to the table with remarks like that. You may not like the design, but many do. What was "fine" for you was "clunky" for many. Remember that Mozilla projects revolve around the community which you are free to join and make a difference. If you don't, at least don't flame people who worked their butts off to build something. Criticize work, not people.

by yati 12y ago

IvyMike 12y ago

> brave I am not trying to be snarky, but to me a lot of the new UI is "oh, they made it look more like Chrome". I am kind of surprised to hear the word "brave" to describe that.

seba_dos1 12y ago
Work on this UI started long before Chrome. That's Chrome that looks like Firefox mockups, not the other way.
- vanderZwan 12y ago
  Interesting, got a source for that?
- zethraeus 12y ago
  Can you source this from public docs somewhere? It's interesting and I'd love to compare the early mockups with early chrome.
  - Excavator 12y ago
    Not OP but earliest concepts I know of are these¹ from 2011. 1: http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-presentation.html http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-pre...
  - IvyMike 12y ago
    Here's are some pre-release screenshots of Chrome from 2008. http://mikemacd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/google-chrome-screenshots/ http://mikemacd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/google-chrome-scree...
yati 12y ago
There are a lot of people who initially did not like the curved tabs and other visual design changes (e.g., the bookmark star is no longer in the 'awesome bar'). It is IMO brave for the designers to take a stand for the users when redesigning a widely used product. I have the same feelings for the GNOME project.
- davb 12y ago
  > There are a lot of people who initially did not like ... > ... take a stand for the user ... These statements seem at odds. I'm all for change when there's a clear need for it, but when it's done just to keep up with Chrome's aesthetic, it can alienate an existing userbase. If I wanted Chrome, I'd be using Chrome. The reason I stuck with Firefox for so long was the configurability. However, now when a settings is removed or dumbed down the default stance on BugZilla is "just install an addon".
  - 51Cards 12y ago
    Very much agree with this comment. I'll be sticking to v28 for now and using the Classic Theme restorer to restore the lost features when I have to move up. Sadly, this will become the fourth extension I run to restore features Firefox has removed.

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brazzy 12y ago

They are useless idiots whom I hate with a passion for their user-hostile self-gratification. The design was just fine, so leave it the fuck alone!

yati 12y ago
You are not bringing anything to the table with remarks like that. You may not like the design, but many do. What was "fine" for you was "clunky" for many. Remember that Mozilla projects revolve around the community which you are free to join and make a difference. If you don't, at least don't flame people who worked their butts off to build something. Criticize work, not people.