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Yea... this is something you should have talked about on day -1. You can really mess up relationships by not getting the expectations out there and then making

Yea... this is something you should have talked about on day -1. You can really mess up relationships by not getting the expectations out there and then making sure everyone lives up to them. I would have a conversation with ownership and see if they want to give you any stock. I would couch it by saying. I'm really glad you let me learn from you, but I think its time for me to either get a job or get some visibility to one here. I won't start making demands... doesn't sound like you set the expectations in the beginning and that's on you. Don't get mad at them for accepting your "help" paid or not. They might value your contribution very differently than you.

chany2 12y ago
Yes. I actually lost my job the same day, I asked if my friend needed any help. So there was no expectation set on the 1st day. The first and 2nd month or so - was still determining our product-market fit. The 3rd month was more aligning to clients. However, its clear the value I set for the team behind the 3 month acceleration process. And that now, if they lose my contribution, the whole startup would be set back. (granted thats my perspective)
- jesusmichael 12y ago
  Not trying to argue with you. I'm only pointing out that if they felt they "needed" you they would have clarified that by now. They may think they are "helping" you out by giving you some real world experience. My point is you should have a talk with them and find out what's in their head, before you go all "I think I deserve..." There is no better time then now if the project is at a critical junction. Simply ask what expectations you should have from them employment/equity-wise. How do they see me folding you into the firm. Don't let them put it off and get an answer, within a reasonable time. Don't make it combative. Find out what they are thinking... digest it... tell them what you are thinking... let them digest... and come to an agreement... or not

chany2 12y ago

Yes. I actually lost my job the same day, I asked if my friend needed any help. So there was no expectation set on the 1st day. The first and 2nd month or so - was still determining our product-market fit. The 3rd month was more aligning to clients. However, its clear the value I set for the team behind the 3 month acceleration process. And that now, if they lose my contribution, the whole startup would be set back. (granted thats my perspective)

jesusmichael 12y ago
Not trying to argue with you. I'm only pointing out that if they felt they "needed" you they would have clarified that by now. They may think they are "helping" you out by giving you some real world experience. My point is you should have a talk with them and find out what's in their head, before you go all "I think I deserve..." There is no better time then now if the project is at a critical junction. Simply ask what expectations you should have from them employment/equity-wise. How do they see me folding you into the firm. Don't let them put it off and get an answer, within a reasonable time. Don't make it combative. Find out what they are thinking... digest it... tell them what you are thinking... let them digest... and come to an agreement... or not