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This is the double edged sword she was playing with. If her allegations are found to have merit, then a lawsuit is what she would file next with this as the on

This is the double edged sword she was playing with. If her allegations are found to have merit, then a lawsuit is what she would file next with this as the only evidence she needs to confirm what she's been saying. Now that the results are in and they found nothing to support her allegations, it looks like GitHub has a strong defamation case to bring against her. If I was her, I'd be looking for a good attorney to represent me. Since she never filed a lawsuit, this makes her look like what most people on the GitHub side have been saying all along. That she's indignant, bitter and feels entitled. Not to mention the whole time she's been feeding GitHub plenty of ammunition via social media.

jrochkind1 13y ago
1. How the heck can you read that and say there was nothing to support her allegations? Did you read the same thing I just read? 2. Github suing her for defamation would be SO counter-productive, as it would make them look awful. Also, did you see the part where they apologized to her? Are you sure you actually read the OP? Clearly, their FIRST public announcement was written on the advice of lawyers or PR people, where they admitted as little as possible, in part not to give her 'ammunition' in court. But it made them look bad and weasely. So this is the one they released _even though_ it gives her some ammunition.
- Jun8 13y ago
  Please read post again, according to it the investigation found two things (in summary): 1. TPW and her spouse acted inappropriately 2. There was no evidence of sexist behavior at GitHub (related to this instance, at least). Horvath's claims included allegations of both 1 & 2. It's clear that her allegations did irreparable damage to GitHub, since a lot of people won't bother to follow this story in detail and will remember it a "sexist" place where your code may get deleted if you don't put out. As you say GitHub will not be able to bring defamation charges against Horvath due to PR reasons, this is an unfortunate and sad state of affairs (and one of the very few times I long for the strong defamation laws in Europe).
vellum 13y ago
it looks like GitHub has a strong defamation case to bring against her Litigation is very slow. They want this to go away, not drag it out for months or years. Also, her lawyers would subpoena Github for years of chat logs, emails, and texts. Even if there is no smoking gun, they could probably dredge up something embarassing and make it public.
mcantelon 13y ago
She's got a lot of community support, so it would be pretty bad PR to go after her legally.
TheCondor 13y ago
My take away is that GitHub has some crazy in leadership AND they had some crazy quit and become disgruntled. I kind of don't want to cross any of their paths. Too much drama, might have been some sordid stuff but there was definitely a lot of drama. I'll keep my code elsewhere and I'll be wary of all involved.

jrochkind1 13y ago

1. How the heck can you read that and say there was nothing to support her allegations? Did you read the same thing I just read? 2. Github suing her for defamation would be SO counter-productive, as it would make them look awful. Also, did you see the part where they apologized to her? Are you sure you actually read the OP? Clearly, their FIRST public announcement was written on the advice of lawyers or PR people, where they admitted as little as possible, in part not to give her 'ammunition' in court. But it made them look bad and weasely. So this is the one they released _even though_ it gives her some ammunition.

Jun8 13y ago
Please read post again, according to it the investigation found two things (in summary): 1. TPW and her spouse acted inappropriately 2. There was no evidence of sexist behavior at GitHub (related to this instance, at least). Horvath's claims included allegations of both 1 & 2. It's clear that her allegations did irreparable damage to GitHub, since a lot of people won't bother to follow this story in detail and will remember it a "sexist" place where your code may get deleted if you don't put out. As you say GitHub will not be able to bring defamation charges against Horvath due to PR reasons, this is an unfortunate and sad state of affairs (and one of the very few times I long for the strong defamation laws in Europe).

vellum 13y ago

it looks like GitHub has a strong defamation case to bring against her Litigation is very slow. They want this to go away, not drag it out for months or years. Also, her lawyers would subpoena Github for years of chat logs, emails, and texts. Even if there is no smoking gun, they could probably dredge up something embarassing and make it public.

mcantelon 13y ago

She's got a lot of community support, so it would be pretty bad PR to go after her legally.

TheCondor 13y ago

My take away is that GitHub has some crazy in leadership AND they had some crazy quit and become disgruntled. I kind of don't want to cross any of their paths. Too much drama, might have been some sordid stuff but there was definitely a lot of drama. I'll keep my code elsewhere and I'll be wary of all involved.